So once again I am back on my thread. Work is changing, and I seem to have less and less time on my hands these days. I pretty much am at the end of this log, it doesn't seem to be going much further with any significant points, especially as far as the subject matter of Epistane and PCT for the cycle goes. I guess I will wind this one down with a overall wrap up of my opinions on the products I have taken, and take a break from logging my exercises and numbers until my Mdrol run. I'm sure you guys will hear updates as the days pass.
The Sauce:
Epistane/Epithin-E (2,3a-Epithio-17a-methyletioallo cholan-17b-ol) - I found this product to do exactly what most people have said it does. It put on solid size and strength with little side effects. I dosed higher than I think I should have by the end of the run, and did not cut down my caffeine intake nearly enough.
In my honest opinion, Epi does not have to be run higher than 40mg if you are under 200 lbs. I ran it at 50mg with no problems, but 60 mg did not feel right for me, in fact I stopped my run short at five weeks because of the effects of the high dosing. I also do not believe that I made significant gains during the fifth week in comparison to the side effects. If I was to run this product again, I would run it 20-20-20-30-30-30-30/40/40/50 and be done with the product at the end of four weeks. I ran it this time at 20/30/40-50/50/60 and stopped at 5 days into week 5.
The Supports
I ran 8 gm fish oil a day
I ran Cycle Support
I ran - super cissus
I ran some extra hawthorne berry to keep my blood pressure down.
The Sides
The side effects I experienced were minimal, but I did experience lethargy, back pumps, and slight shrinkage... the boys didn't go on vacation, but they obviously were suppressed a bit. I never lost the ability to get an erection, finishing was another story once I hit week 3. I lost NO hair.
The Strength
The product makes you ramp up in strength incredibly. It is gradual, I honestly didn't notice the strength gained until I was off the product. When on... I can't describe it, the weight just feels lighter. I didn't feel the androgenic aggression that many people describe with epi, but I was definitely ready to go at the gym. Amazing pumps.
What is really cool is I kept my strength. I think keeping strength is all mental, and once you lift something once, it gets easier and easier to lift each time, and much of this is because you know you have lifted it X number of times before. We all probably have a lot more in us than we could ever believe as far as sheer physical ability to do something, just we stop ourselves short of 100% much of the time just as a safety mechanism of the subconscious. Well, since I was on a steroid (lets all be honest here, epi is a steroid) I had it in my mind that I would be able to lift more. Ah the magical placebo. I still had my best chest workout of my life on the first day of epistane. LOL go figure. I just need a bottle of caffeine pills that has a label of methoxytrenboldadecahaloepithiodrol.
The Growth
I grew like a friggen weed. I feel that the Epistane changed my body composition in a way that not only did I break through strength plateaus, I believe that my body structure is more apt to gaining muscle now, I guess it is the change in genetic potential that people speak of. I am nowhere near my genetic max, that won't be for another 10 years or so, however I feel that the rate at which my body was growing prior to the epistane is a different rate than it is growing even now that I am off and have been off for over a month. It actually feels like my frame is different... thicker. I ate a ton too. Don't go into these substances without being serious about your diet. If your diet isn't right you are not reaching your natty potential. This is to push you past your natty potential. I probably jumped the gun on my own natty potential, but hey, curiosity killed the cat, so I'll deal. I started at 182 lbs and probably 8%BF. I ended at 191 and 9-10% BF. I ended my PCT at 195-196 lbs and probably 11% BF. I need to take my measurements tomorrow and log those as I don't know what they are offhand. My legs grew immensely, as did my shoulders and chest. My back seemed to harden up and get thicker, I don't think I gained a ton of width. My arms grew, they are also much denser and wider than before.
The PCT
I ran Tamoxifen Citrate (a SERM) for 4 weeks. 20/20/10/10. I have no gyno, so that was plenty IMO.
I used one bottle of DTHC, I dosed 6 a day for two weeks, then 4 a day until they ran out. I bounced back in around a week.
I ran Post Cycle Support for 30 days.
I ran fenugreek at 2gm a day. I think this really helped get my libido back on track.
I ran Lean Xtreme at full doseage starting at day 15.
I started using White flood and Green Mag creatine, but soon switched to Ragnarok. I like Ragnarok better, but it could use more of a kick to it.
I used Xtend at full dosage pre workout.
I used P-slin on workout days. GREAT PUMPS.
I think that this list is overkill for what is needed for PCT, however my supplement budget is growing with my business, so I had a little fun trying everything I wanted to.
The Summary
If you are going to run something, reading this probably didn't swing you one way or the other, you probably already have your mind made up like I did going into this run.
If you are already going to run a designer, then I recommend this as a designer steroid. I, however, think there is potential for abuse with this compound, and I think that it should not be run by anyone who is not willing to reap the consequences along with the benefits of steroid use. That said, my cherry is popped. It's time to wait for my MMV2 and ECA to arrive... I might start a less serious log about that month... especially since MMV2 makes me so damn angry :twisted: .
Come November/December I will be back with my second chapter in my journey with CEL's infamous Mdrol.
Thanks to Timberlakers for all the support and witticisms throughout the log. You are one funny mofo and a real bro. We're gonna kick it before we run this Mdrol, even if I have to come out to f*cking New York.
TG - my Berzerker Broski, Your knowledge and attitude has taught me a lot in the short time I have known you. You are truly a class act. Thank you.
TG2 - I promise I'll send you a cd soon. I know I am lagging. BTW, you are the sluttiest slut of a slut I have ever met.
Ziq - You are a stand up guy. Thanks for all the advice, I trust you will be coming along for the Mdrol run.
Metroba - Thanks for the Avys. They kept my libido alive during my poor cheeseburgers tough time. :burg::burg:
DelSolRob - Thanks for the words of wisdom, PCT info and cruising up to get a workout with me. Let me know and I'll cruise down south and we'll it hit up again.
To Heavies and BS - You two are some of the craziest ****ers I have ever had the pleasure of shooting the sh!t with.
To Pantera - Your name says it all bro. Pantera kicks ass.
To Mullet - You're a pretty stand up guy... for a Canadian.
just kidding buddy. You're the man, sorry for being a d*ck.
To all the haters - Come get some deadlifts with me b*tches.
All of the Doom Crew - Here and "abroad", thanks for all the motivation to destroy sh!t. Keep tearing up those weights and eating everything.
-Garrett aka GMG760.
