Whats the best pound for pound alphamine replacement thermo powder?

Millennium Sports has redone SHRED-ULTRA™. Shred Ultra was quite thermogenic. Im guessing the new one the comes out on 3-39-19 will be similar.
 
chedapalooza said:
well we’ve got Lipøshield and Parøslim right now, and Innøslim in April to get you primed for Inērtia in May and add the stims for the extra aggressive final cutting stages!

Oh shti I think i just slipped on releasing the name......

HPS Inērtia: Get in motion, stay in motion!
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Any serving/price info yet? Would love to see this stuff.
 
I posted the ingredient profile in the new product release thread but here it is again. Going to run a guess the dosage giveaway closer to release. It will be a 60 scoop tub. Recommended servings will be 1 scoop twice a day or 2 scoops pre workout. Want to keep it flexible for people who use other stims or stim pres or anything else that may contain caffeine

This will serve those looking for sustainable fat loss and hardening through several pathways, clean energy, and mood enhancement. It stacks perfectly with Lipøshield, Parøslim and Innøslim (and obviously Glycøshield) and I’m going to put out stand-alone amentoflavone and pterostilbene soon after this release.

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chedapalooza said:
I posted the ingredient profile in the new product release thread but here it is again. Going to run a guess the dosage giveaway closer to release. It will be a 60 scoop tub. Recommended servings will be 1 scoop twice a day or 2 scoops pre workout. Want to keep it flexible for people who use other stims or stim pres or anything else that may contain caffeine

This will serve those looking for sustainable fat loss and hardening through several pathways, clean energy, and mood enhancement. It stacks perfectly with Lipøshield, Parøslim and Innøslim (and obviously Glycøshield) and I’m going to put out stand-alone amentoflavone and pterostilbene soon after this release.

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Can’t wait
 
Alex281 said:
Is it even possible to get SA2-A extract ?
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Doubtful. Maybe in a private sale from when they released it solo. Otherwise, we would have to expect either PES to license it, or some insider secrets to get out.
 
Ape McGrapes said:
Doubtful. Maybe in a private sale from when they released it solo. Otherwise, we would have to expect either PES to license it, or some insider secrets to get out.
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Correct. Reverse engineer and risk lawsuit, or license assuming they even have the ability to manufacture it anymore=very costly and no reason. It’s still yohimbine and very few people want or need that anymore. My new formula is stronger, trust me lol
 
Ape McGrapes said:
Doubtful. Maybe in a private sale from when they released it solo. Otherwise, we would have to expect either PES to license it, or some insider secrets to get out.
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Right, but there’s a LOT of alkaloids in Yohimbe. There are probably many more combinations out there that could do the trick. A big point is watching the dose across the different alkaloids to get the desired effect. I think the old Alphamine nailed that. All the Y rush and practically none of the side effects. HR hit right away for cardio and then tapered off peacefully. Sometimes I find Y products to send my heart racing hours later, exactly when I don’t want it to be
 
N2ofusion said:
Right, but there’s a LOT of alkaloids in Yohimbe. There are probably many more combinations out there that could do the trick. A big point is watching the dose across the different alkaloids to get the desired effect. I think the old Alphamine nailed that. All the Y rush and practically none of the side effects. HR hit right away for cardio and then tapered off peacefully. Sometimes I find Y products to send my heart racing hours later, exactly when I don’t want it to be
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You are correct - Different compounds act as agonists and antagonists to the various alpha-adrenergic receptor subsets. I worked out the specific combination through a lot of testing. One of the compounds isn't available at reasonable quantities and price. My guess why it is no longer produced?
 
It’s a shame it’s gone and it’s a shame all other versions of y **** with my head because it melts my love handles off like nothing else. I might still experiment with really low doses of alpha y but not sure how low a dose would still be effective.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
You are correct - Different compounds act as agonists and antagonists to the various alpha-adrenergic receptor subsets. I worked out the specific combination through a lot of testing. One of the compounds isn't available at reasonable quantities and price. My guess why it is no longer produced?
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Similar issue we had last year with Glycøshield. There was NO 10% corsolic Acid to be found anywhere. We had to have it made specifically for us and it was a MASSIVE expense.
 
chedapalooza said:
Similar issue we had last year with Glycøshield. There was NO 10% corsolic Acid to be found anywhere. We had to have it made specifically for us and it was a MASSIVE expense.
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There are plenty of lower % extracts which you could just use an increased dose of to obtain the same amount of active?
 
NoAddedHmones said:
There are plenty of lower % extracts which you could just use an increased dose of to obtain the same amount of active?
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Correct but then it would have changed the bottle size and capsule size and capsule count. It would have been much more of a head ache to do that and also have to make new labels to account for the change then have people wonder why it changed so on so forth. It worked out in the end bc we have A LOT of it now haha and no worries about running out for quite some time
 
chedapalooza said:
I posted the ingredient profile in the new product release thread but here it is again. Going to run a guess the dosage giveaway closer to release. It will be a 60 scoop tub. Recommended servings will be 1 scoop twice a day or 2 scoops pre workout. Want to keep it flexible for people who use other stims or stim pres or anything else that may contain caffeine

This will serve those looking for sustainable fat loss and hardening through several pathways, clean energy, and mood enhancement. It stacks perfectly with Lipøshield, Parøslim and Innøslim (and obviously Glycøshield) and I’m going to put out stand-alone amentoflavone and pterostilbene soon after this release.

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That's the sickest formula for a fat burning powder I've ever seen. On paper it's already a better formula than og alphamine.
 
Out of sheer curiosity I reached out to my friends/contacts at pes. We have a great relationship and I asked if the sa2a is available, if it’s specific to them or can be purchased elsewhere, and also asked why it was discontinued—cost, availability, or something else. If I’m able to get my hands on it I will add it in.
 
chedapalooza said:
Out of sheer curiosity I reached out to my friends/contacts at pes. We have a great relationship and I asked if the sa2a is available, if it’s specific to them or can be purchased elsewhere, and also asked why it was discontinued—cost, availability, or something else. If I’m able to get my hands on it I will add it in.
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Please do this! Bro, if you could get your hands on that, you’d make a ton of people happy!
 
chedapalooza said:
I posted the ingredient profile in the new product release thread but here it is again. Going to run a guess the dosage giveaway closer to release. It will be a 60 scoop tub. Recommended servings will be 1 scoop twice a day or 2 scoops pre workout. Want to keep it flexible for people who use other stims or stim pres or anything else that may contain caffeine

This will serve those looking for sustainable fat loss and hardening through several pathways, clean energy, and mood enhancement. It stacks perfectly with Lipøshield, Parøslim and Innøslim (and obviously Glycøshield) and I’m going to put out stand-alone amentoflavone and pterostilbene soon after this release.

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Isn’t there a better form of choline to use or not use it at all? That always made me feel like garbage in the original alphamine. I’d feel awesome for an hour then brain fog and depressed for 3 hours.
 
GreenMachineX said:
Isn’t there a better form of choline to use or not use it at all? That always made me feel like garbage in the original alphamine. I’d feel awesome for an hour then brain fog and depressed for 3 hours.
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For fat loss no. That’s the one you want. And it should not have that effect so it was more likely the Sa2a to be honest.
 
chedapalooza said:
Out of sheer curiosity I reached out to my friends/contacts at pes. We have a great relationship and I asked if the sa2a is available, if it’s specific to them or can be purchased elsewhere, and also asked why it was discontinued—cost, availability, or something else. If I’m able to get my hands on it I will add it in.
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I’d pick up a few tubs for sure
 
chedapalooza said:
I posted the ingredient profile in the new product release thread but here it is again. Going to run a guess the dosage giveaway closer to release. It will be a 60 scoop tub. Recommended servings will be 1 scoop twice a day or 2 scoops pre workout. Want to keep it flexible for people who use other stims or stim pres or anything else that may contain caffeine

This will serve those looking for sustainable fat loss and hardening through several pathways, clean energy, and mood enhancement. It stacks perfectly with Lipøshield, Parøslim and Innøslim (and obviously Glycøshield) and I’m going to put out stand-alone amentoflavone and pterostilbene soon after this release.

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HHmmm

Looking more into this
 
Any "clone" of Alphamine is obviously a product for the people, and as such should only rightfully be called "Alphayours".
 
N2ofusion said:
Right, but there’s a LOT of alkaloids in Yohimbe. There are probably many more combinations out there that could do the trick. A big point is watching the dose across the different alkaloids to get the desired effect. I think the old Alphamine nailed that. All the Y rush and practically none of the side effects. HR hit right away for cardio and then tapered off peacefully. Sometimes I find Y products to send my heart racing hours later, exactly when I don’t want it to be
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So was it the yohimbine in the original alphamine that gave that awesome euphoria? I could never figure out looking at the ingredients which one did it.
 
I was going to mention the same thing, I’m sure it was the Y. I remember reading about The OG and people having issues with the Y extract and it sounds similar to your experience GMX.

Cheda, I try searching for that n-2 hydroxy because I forgot what it was and I finally stumbled on the old Aegeline ingredient that many people claimed caused liver problems.

I gotta say, I had the pleasure of using the OG alphamine (minus the n-coumaroyldopamine) this morning and it was awesome!

I’m happy to see you including the n-coumaroyldopamine, as I responded really well to that, I enjoyed that muscle hardness it gave me
 
chedapalooza said:
Does it share any ingredients w the original alphamine? Like the thread title states?
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Except the title states no such thing. It asks what is the best pound for pound alphamine replacement, of which is what he posted.

It doesnt need to be a clone in order for it to be a replacement.
 
Jiigzz said:
Except the title states no such thing. It asks what is the best pound for pound alphamine replacement, of which is what he posted.

It doesnt need to be a clone in order for it to be a replacement.
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You’re splitting hairs man. So then ANY powdered supplement that has fat burning properties would be a suitable replacement? Is Lipøshield a suitable replacement? Absolutely not. Replacement in MY mind means shares similar ingredients and MOA. I never said it was a clone. A clone implies a direct copy .... of which no product is. Similar ingredients implies the ability to replace. No similar ingredients implies not a replacement.
 
chedapalooza said:
You’re splitting hairs man. So then ANY powdered supplement that has fat burning properties would be a suitable replacement? Is Lipøshield a suitable replacement? Absolutely not. Replacement in MY mind means shares similar ingredients and MOA. I never said it was a clone. A clone implies a direct copy .... of which no product is. Similar ingredients implies the ability to replace. No similar ingredients implies not a replacement.
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Honestly, I would prefer a clone. It worked and felt fantastic as is.
 
chedapalooza said:
You’re splitting hairs man. So then ANY powdered supplement that has fat burning properties would be a suitable replacement? Is Lipøshield a suitable replacement? Absolutely not. Replacement in MY mind means shares similar ingredients and MOA. I never said it was a clone. A clone implies a direct copy .... of which no product is. Similar ingredients implies the ability to replace. No similar ingredients implies not a replacement.
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You've promoted Liposhied and other future products from your line numerous times ITT, lol.

To me it just felt like you were trying to shut him down for no real reason
 
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