Whats strong to run with t3 to offset its catabolism

[manup]

I was watching a video on youtube and I see some guy talking about t3
and he was saying test is not the only anabolic agent that can offset the catabolic effects of t3
he was also saying osta and lgd can I think thats absurd but I'm not an expert or experience with t3
btw I not thinking of running this this is just a question

 

[paul56778]

I feel this would get a better response in anabolic forum,

as far as T3 use i think around 250mg test per week would be required to off set catabolism from 50mcg of T3 or around 5 times as much test compared to the T3 dose, you could use this as a basis to try and dose other compounds effects.

 

[mmorso]

I was watching a video on youtube and I see some guy talking about t3
and he was saying test is not the only anabolic agent that can offset the catabolic effects of t3
he was also saying osta and lgd can I think thats absurd but I'm not an expert or experience with t3
btw I not thinking of running this this is just a question

Actually, clenbuterol can offset the catabolic effects of T3 (dose dependent).

I feel this would get a better response in anabolic forum,

as far as T3 use i think around 250mg test per week would be required to off set catabolism from 50mcg of T3 or around 5 times as much test compared to the T3 dose, you could use this as a basis to try and dose other compounds effects.

50mcg is a low dose; in fact, T3 is anabolic at 50mcg.

Also, carbs/insulin response plays a huge role in the catabolic/anabolic effect

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[paul56778]

Actually, clenbuterol can offset the catabolic effects of T3 (dose dependent).



50mcg is a low dose; in fact, T3 is anabolic at 50mcg.

Also, carbs/insulin response plays a huge role in the catabolic/anabolic effect

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25mcg would be a replacement dose and put you to the normal, upper normal levels, 50mcg is double what we normally produce and is not too high for negative effects. from personal use i found 50mcg to be a good dose if you want more for cutting i would say 75mcg and maybe 100mcg, anything over 100 for experienced users and only with heavy use of anabolics, probably only required for contest prep and getting into low single digits for bodyfat.

 

[paul56778]

Also mmorso have you tried T2,

 

[HIT4ME]

I was watching a video on youtube and I see some guy talking about t3
and he was saying test is not the only anabolic agent that can offset the catabolic effects of t3
he was also saying osta and lgd can I think thats absurd but I'm not an expert or experience with t3
btw I not thinking of running this this is just a question

Yeah - if you are worried about catabolism from T3, I think it's pretty well regarded that the only stuff that will REALLY work is gear. Having said that - the "T3 is catabolic and will waste muscle" thing is really hyped. I may think this because I seemed to be a non-responder to T3, so I didn't notice anything good or bad even at over 100 mcg of pharma grade and around 200 mg of RC.

Actually, clenbuterol can offset the catabolic effects of T3 (dose dependent).



50mcg is a low dose; in fact, T3 is anabolic at 50mcg.

Also, carbs/insulin response plays a huge role in the catabolic/anabolic effect

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I didn't read your post - but I'm under the impression that clen is only anabolic if you're a farm animal. It isn't anabolic in humans as far as I've seen....am I wrong? I will read your post when I have more time.

I agree with you that T3 catabolism is overblown, but I think saying, "X dose is anabolic" may be going too far in the other direction. In my experience, 50 mcg is actually a fairly reasonable dose...but again I didn't really even respond at 200 mcg maybe. But some people may be on the other end of that spectrum and 25 mcg may set them off...

 

[heavylifter33]

Actually, clenbuterol can offset the catabolic effects of T3 (dose dependent).



50mcg is a low dose; in fact, T3 is anabolic at 50mcg.

Also, carbs/insulin response plays a huge role in the catabolic/anabolic effect

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Where on Earth are you pulling this information from lol?

 

[HIT4ME]

Where on Earth are you pulling this information from lol?

A lot of people claim clen is anabolic - based on the fact that it is anabolic in farm animals, but that doesn't apply to humans.

Some people claim that T3 in low doses (I wouldn't say 50 mcg qualifies for MOST people) can be anabolic because it speeds up metabolic processes and protein turn over - so if you eat a bunch of protein in a calorie surplus, it may make recovery faster, etc. - but typically people are talking like 12.5 mcg/day or even 25 mcg for this. I would say that maybe some people would still see these effects at 50 mcg - given my lack of response to it entirely.

 

[mmorso]

Where on Earth are you pulling this information from lol?

I've read that Clen is "anti-catabolic" not that it is anabolic.. I've also read that people will stack Clen with t3 to offset the catabolic effects of t3.

Am I wrong here? I thought it was common practice:

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[HIT4ME]

I've read that Clen is "anti-catabolic" not that it is anabolic.. I've also read that people will stack Clen with t3 to offset the catabolic effects of t3.

Am I wrong here? I thought it was common practice:

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Yeah - I'm not sure what they mean by "anti-catabolic" exactly....lots of people make claims based on anectodal experiences of other users. I doubt you will find any good studies showing it has a strong impact on avoiding muscle loss in humans. At least not directly - people changing other factors because they are on clen may be a consideration.