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what you think I should do :(

hamdysayed

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hey yall i have been on supe3 11 kt for a month and trenavar for 18 days 60 m first week 120 mg after that and added epistane 24 mg and 4 dhea 330 mg 7 days ago cycle was going fine till I added these compounds , so last night **** got super real I stayed up till 3 wondering what's going to happen to me felt like my whole body is pumped bp was about 150 systolic 70 dystolic.
my guess is the fukin 4 dhea got water retention shooting high and caused me to feel that way also my face felt like s a Ballon and lil numb feeling. I feel better now but that sh!t is scary.
here is what I'm taking for support(Ihave been watching my sodium)
sup3r dhea test base
arm1care pro
tudca
kylolic aged garlic for bp 6 caps
doctors best nattokinase
hawthorn berry 1-3 grams depends
fish oil
so what should I do ? drop tren drop epistane?
i know im done with damn 4 androgot me bloated and holding on to water like a mofo thanks for ur help.
 
hamdysayed said:
hey yall i have been on supe3 11 kt for a month and trenavar for 18 days 60 m first week 120 mg after that and added epistane 24 mg and 4 dhea 330 mg 7 days ago cycle was going fine till I added these compounds , so last night **** got super real I stayed up till 3 wondering what's going to happen to me felt like my whole body is pumped bp was about 150 systolic 70 dystolic.
my guess is the fukin 4 dhea got water retention shooting high and caused me to feel that way also my face felt like s a Ballon and lil numb feeling. I feel better now but that sh!t is scary.
here is what I'm taking for support(Ihave been watching my sodium)
sup3r dhea test base
arm1care pro
tudca
kylolic aged garlic for bp 6 caps
doctors best nattokinase
hawthorn berry 1-3 grams depends
fish oil
so what should I do ? drop tren drop epistane?
i know im done with damn 4 androgot me bloated and holding on to water like a mofo thanks for ur help.
yates84
Jebrook
Danes
NoAddedHmones
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What are you dosing Super 11 at and you're still on it correct? Probs dial your Tren dose back to 90 mg. Tren is tuff on bp and the addition of the methyl likely made things worse. I always get BP spikes when I start a cycle and when I add compounds or up the dosage. Dropping 4 andro is fine.
 
Jebrook said:
What are you dosing Super 11 at and you're still on it correct? Probs dial your Tren dose back to 90 mg. Tren is tuff on bp and the addition of the methyl likely made things worse. I always get BP spikes when I start a cycle and when I add compounds or up the dosage. Dropping 4 andro is fine.
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Wouldn't 4 andro be working as his test base?? Or is there something else in the mix that could do that?
 
Matthew1237 said:
Wouldn't 4 andro be working as his test base?? Or is there something else in the mix that could do that?
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Yes, 4 Andro is a test base. Also, Super DHEA is designed to function as a test base. Of the two, it should be milder. I think majority of his issues are caused by the sudden addition of so many compounds, plus already being on cycle for 4 weeks.
 
thanks Jebrook
I think so too I'm running too much that my body can't handle that's why I have to drop some off.
Epistane and 4 andro.
should i continue tren and 11 kt and suo3r dhea?
 
Maybe lower Tren a bit. It could have just been the Tren causing anxiety. I know I'll get real anxious sometimes and be like "what the Hell am I doing to myself" and say I'm gonna get rid of everything, but in the morning I'm calmed down and feel like a moron for freaking out. Lol
 
rascal14 said:
Maybe lower Tren a bit. It could have just been the Tren causing anxiety. I know I'll get real anxious sometimes and be like "what the Hell am I doing to myself" and say I'm gonna get rid of everything, but in the morning I'm calmed down and feel like a moron for freaking out. Lol
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man I don't know , it was kind of intense.
what is that feeling when all ur body feel like it's pumped ?
water retention?
 
hamdysayed said:
man I don't know , it was kind of intense.
what is that feeling when all ur body feel like it's pumped ?
water retention?
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It could be water retention. You just started the 4 and epistane a week ago? Maybe drop the the doses of Epi and 4 and see how that goes. Do you look like your holding extra water? How many carbs are you getting?
 
Brandinooooo said:
It could be water retention. You just started the 4 and epistane a week ago? Maybe drop the the doses of Epi and 4 and see how that goes. Do you look like your holding extra water? How many carbs are you getting?
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nah I hate water retention and carbs about 150 grams a day try to keep it minimal.
and I'm dropping sup3r 4 for sure.and epistane i was running 24 mg.
 
Jebrook said:
Yes, 4 Andro is a test base. Also, Super DHEA is designed to function as a test base. Of the two, it should be milder. I think majority of his issues is caused by the sudden addition of so many compounds, plus already being on cycle for 4 weeks.
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Definitely! Time will help to 'balance' things out a bit.

hamdysayed said:
thanks Jebrook
I think so too I'm running too much that my body can't handle that's why I have to drop some off.
Epistane and 4 andro.
should i continue tren and 11 kt and suo3r dhea?
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Good call on dropping the epistane. I don't think the 4-DHEA is that big of a concern here, but with the Super-DHEA and to a lesser extent the 11-KT, it probably isn't completely necessary.

I'm betting your electrolytes are way out of balance, too. Try adding in 5 grams of Taurine 2x per day. I would also add in some potassium citrate (200 mg) with each meal, while on cycle. Potassium Citrate capsules are dirt cheap and I make sure to always have plenty on tap for when I cycle. The combo of taurine/potassium/water/cardio always reduces bloat/water retention and elevated BP when it hits me.
 
Toren said:
Definitely! Time will help to 'balance' things out a bit.



Good call on dropping the epistane. I don't think the 4-DHEA is that big of a concern here, but with the Super-DHEA and to a lesser extent the 11-KT, it probably isn't completely necessary.

I'm betting your electrolytes are way out of balance, too. Try adding in 5 grams of Taurine 2x per day. I would also add in some potassium citrate (200 mg) with each meal, while on cycle. Potassium Citrate capsules are dirt cheap and I make sure to always have plenty on tap for when I cycle. The combo of taurine/potassium/water/cardio always reduces bloat/water retention and elevated BP when it hits me.
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^^^Good advice here:bigok:
 
hamdysayed said:
cool Toren Jebrook so you guys both think I should drop epistane, lower Tren dosage and discontinue 11kt (2 pumps a day) or keep using 11kt?
add potassium and magnesium
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How long will this cycle last? If it were me, I'd just carry on with the 11-KT, Trenavar, and Super-DHEA at current doses. That, in combination with balancing your electrolytes should hopefully help.

I wouldn't overlook the Taurine, though. It plays a role in the body for regulating mineral and electrolytes balances in the blood and across cell membranes. It also does a whole host of other things within the body that may also be beneficial to guys on cycle.
 
Toren said:
How long will this cycle last? If it were me, I'd just carry on with the 11-KT, Trenavar, and Super-DHEA at current doses. That, in combination with balancing your electrolytes should hopefully help.

I wouldn't overlook the Taurine, though. It plays a role in the body for regulating mineral and electrolytes balances in the blood and across cell membranes. It also does a whole host of other things within the body that may also be beneficial to guys on cycle.
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sounds like a plan broo thank u ,I have taurine I'll start dosing 10 grams a day
aweosme
 
Jebrook said:
Yeah, I remember that. Def drop Epistane.
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Agreed i don't want to give up sup3r 11kt my favorite compound so far feels great on it .
also Ijust started feeling normal again...damn it took exactly 24 hours I didn' take any trenavar today u think that would be ok if I skip today?
 
hamdysayed said:
Agreed i don't want to give up sup3r 11kt my favorite compound so far feels great on it .
also Ijust started feeling normal again...damn it took exactly 24 hours I didn' take any trenavar today u think that would be ok if I skip today?
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Yeah, that's not ideal, but fine.
 
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