Irish Cannon said:
unless i have to eat over 4-4500k calories a day to grow, i dont see what im doing wrong. its rather dissapointing. my body is weird. it doesnt respond to a lot of things.
People continuously ask me what I've "taken" i.e. what doses and what type of anabolic steroids to reach 265 lbs (qualify that as a contest weight of low 230's with 6% bf) at such a young age. My response to them is very simple, it's all about diet. And sadly, many ignorant people, mostly young guys that want to add size only for the summer months to look good on the beach, think I'm yanking their chain. tbh, even my offseason bulking cycles (as I outlined above) aren't that crazy with dosings (if you conider 1200 mg test per week crazy than you should see what some people take in the offseason - upwards of 4 grams). I've been committed to a clean diet since I was in my teens, and as I got into bodybuilding deeper and deeper, I just tweaked it by adding more meals, more protein, and the appropriate carbs. So that's step 1.
Step 2 is proper training (and by that I mean NOT overtraining), and appropriate rest and recovery. That being said I'll be the first to admit that I probably train a bit too much pre-contest, but that's my own flaw that I have to work on.
Step 3 is proper supplementation. This is a critical step as well. Let me also qualify this by saying that most supps you'll see in health food stores and in advertisements in magazines are total garbage. I will say that most of the discussion on this board regarding supps is geared toward supps that work, at least in my experience. That being said, here are what I consider to be crucial supps: protein powder, meal replacements, creatine, glutamine, BCAA's, mutli-vitamin, flax oil, policosanol, Coenzyme Q10, milk thistle, sesamin oil; pre-workout, during workout, and post-worout supps are CRUCIAL as well. I'm sure I may have left out a few. But knowing what to take and when to take them sometimes isnt enough. Most of the time, protein powder is the same across the board, but nowadays there is a large degree of variation in the purity amongst different manufacturers, as well as the degree to which the powder is fortified with different BCAA's, glutamine, and other vitamin and minerals. Also, you need to be careful when selecting the right creatine for your goals. Personally, Gaspari SIzeOn, and Vitargo CGL are big winners in my book (as are all Gaspari products for that matter).
I dont want to go on and on, but let me hopefully not be the first to tell you that anabolic steroids are NOT some godsend that will allow you to gain strength, size, and definition without paying attention to anything I listed above. In fact, I have more strength that most folks in my gym (if not all) when I'm on post cycle therapy and supplementing with a quality creatine than when they are on cycle. And I can understand your puzzlement about the tren. It has received a holy grail-esque reputation amongst weightlifters, but with tren, as is the case of all other AAS, your results (and that includes strength), are only as good as your diet.
And you very well may need 4000-4500 cals per day with 350 g of protein to grow. What are your stats? goals?
