devildog
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Say you order and the ban occurs while they're in the mail on the way to your house? Any ideas? Federal offense?
i'm no lawyer either, but i don't think that having pre-ban receipts will save your azz. Let's say it's after the ban and you get pulled over for a traffic violation and there is a bottle of 1-AD sitting there next to ya. i'm pretty sure the cop could basically arrest you for having a scheduled drug with you. But, you say "here's my receipt dated before the ban!" the cop says, "that's nice, see my nice handcuffs that i'm going to use on you?" that's how i see it. kinda like GHB, pre-ban receipt? blah! :shoot:I ain't no lawyer, but I don't think they can even do anything if it's postmarked with a pre-ban date. Even afterwards if you still have gobs and gobs of it laying around and have proof that you bought it pre-ban IE, receipts, etc, the same thing applies, unless they give an actual disposal date for consumers...
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LOL, yeah but it ain't crack dude...LOL...i'm no lawyer either, but i don't think that having pre-ban receipts will save your azz. Let's say it's after the ban and you get pulled over for a traffic violation and there is a bottle of 1-AD sitting there next to ya. i'm pretty sure the cop could basically arrest you for having a scheduled drug with you. But, you say "here's my receipt dated before the ban!" the cop says, "that's nice, see my nice handcuffs that i'm going to use on you?" that's how i see it. kinda like GHB, pre-ban receipt? blah! :shoot:
So far I havent heard of a "grandfather clause", that would cut off sales, but still allow a grace period for people that ordered them.Well I know I will be shipping until someone sends me or informs me that I can longer sell them.
As far as I know and I am not a lawyer and I dont pretend to know the law, but I assume after the ban when they become illegal, it wont matter if you have a reciept or not. But I also highly doubt anyone will be coming to your house for your bottle of M4OHN.
My other guess is that if there isnt a compound on that list (and please dont anyone post which ones arent listed, there is no need to help anyone out. they have plenty of people and money to look for themselves) and the DEA doesnt get the power to add compounds at random some will or maybe sold longer then others.
Yeah, thats what I was thinking....That is the big problem, if the DEA/FDA can add compounds at will, then there will be no new compounds ever worked on. As soon as it were released they could "claim" it to be a steroid and that would be it.
But there may be a couple that can sneak there way back into use...
I don't think so..There's a difference between (1) scheduling a substance (what is happening now) and (2) the FDA banning sales of a supplement.
#1 can be done for practically anything with a lot of work (relatively speaking) from Congress. That's what's happening now.
#2 cannot be done on practically anything. The FDA can't arbitrarily ban a brand new supplement that has never been used by anyone. They have to at least produce something that demonstrates risk to the public.
The implication of this is that if a new prohormone comes out, the FDA is somewhat powerless until they demonstrate risk. That's why the scheduling tactic is being used against prohormones. They're also trying to stop future prohormones by defining them broadly in relation to testosterone. I could be mistaken, but after following the whole ephedra process, that's my understanding of the law.
I'll tell you why, it's because the majority of voters are from the babyboom generation and to them that constitutes a vote for themselves...older people are the ones that use it the most. Hell, my father whose a doctor and 51yrs. old uses it and looks great...I don't understand the claims that DHEA is being exempted from this somehow...
The bill isn't just about making prohormones a schedule 3 though. They are bumping up the punishments for dealing steroids and maybe possession as well. My guess is that the DEA is going to make steroids a higher priority in the future. Notice the name of the bill is the anabolic steroid act of 2004.people here are correct in that i doubt the DEA or local cops are going to put much effort into enforcing this law in regards to 1-ad or whatever. at least in regards to possession cases.
heck, DEA doesn't barely ever get involved in Possession cases, unless you are talking very big quantities of a drug
This is very true. What I see possibly happening, if the DEA decides to, or is ordered to do some enforcement, is a few cases investigated that can be sensationalized in the media so the word gets out that they are watching, and actively seeking violators. If anything, I believe more pressure will be placed on the shoulders of the U.S. Customs to intercept incoming packages to the U.S.i agree. however, they still have to prioritize. DEA typically does not do ANY possession cases unless they are trafficking amounts - of ANY drug
but they are certainly going to be more of a focus than they have been. certainly