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What We Should Tell Congress about the designer steroids b

TeamAsylum86

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The passing of legislation in the House of Representatives to essentially ban all prohormones and designers is quite discouraging. This legislation is unnecessary and in reality creates more problems than it "claims" to solve. If the Senate passes this bill and it becomes law, the government will in tern be stepping on many U.S. citizens right of choice and purchasing abilities. The legislation congress has put forth is not only detrimental to U.S. citizens freedom, but it is also a bill founded in deep contradiction to other laws and regulations. If this bill passes more problems will come about with less individual freedom, more crowded jails, more government hypocrisy and the creation of a bigger black market for anabolics.*
Regulation in government has its place. It has its place in keeping our waters safe to drink, keeping pollutions form businesses down, and making sure workers are fairly compensated and not working in hazard. These are a few examples where regulation and governmental oversight is needed, but in the Anabolic industry it is not. If congress passes this bill to effectively ban all anabolics, it would be a big overstep of their power and it would take away people's right to choose what they want to buy, but also, it would take away the livelihoods of people who work in the anabolic business. Just for these two reasons alone is enough to not pass this bill. Some people might argue that we should legalize cocaine and heroin because its the people's right to choose what to consume. Well true, but there are limits. Those drugs are proven deadly and cannot be used in a responsible manner that keeps the user safe, as well as others. Anabolics can be used safely and responsibly over an entire life and that is a major difference in keeping anabolics legal as compared to drugs like cocaine and heroin.
Anabolic prohormones and steroids are compounds that can be used effectively and safely for long spans of time. These compounds have many benefits to the human body when taking them. Some benefits include increased red blood cell count, higher rate of protein synthesis, the ability to build muscle at a higher rate, having an increased metabolism, fat burning or lypolisis effects, prevent swelling of organs, increased focus and faster healing properties. These are some of the main positive effects of anabolics and there are many other branch off effects from the main ones as well. A question should now be asked. Why should a substance that has so many positive effects in the body be banned for use, possession and sale in the United States? Of course people will say because of the serious side effects from the anabolics that they should be banned. Yes all steroids and prohormones have side effects, just like any other compound and drug on the legal market, but these side effects are minimal and manageable and the most sever side effects are as a result of abuse of the compounds.*
Most of the negative Ora of steroids comes from the media focusing on abuse cases where someone took too much for too long and suffered sever side effects such as liver failure or a heart attack. Little do they cover however, how those side effects can be almost 100% mitigated. Using anabolics responsibly is the number one way to stay healthy and safe on a cycle. Responsibility can be broken down into a few categories. Category one would be length and dosage. Both of these are imperative to saying as healthy as one can be. If you use a compound for a reasonable length ( between 4-6 weeks) you can maximize progress with little to no severe side effects. Proper dosing also goes along with that. Each product has a "sweet spot" that it is used at. If a product is uses in the proper range, again a person will maximize results and progress with minimal to no side effects. If both of these,length and dosage, are dialed in then you have the outline of an effective low side effect cycle. The other category of responsibility is using proper support supplements. Today there a many support products that can keep your body in the best position to minimize side effects. These products help protect against organ stress and make you healthier over all if they are continued past the end of a run with a compound.*
Stereotypes of anabolics are that they are horrible for your liver and various other organs in the body. Yes this is true to a point but horrible is not the correct term here. Let's compare alcohol and oral steroid consumption. The perception is that the oral steroid will be far worse for you than consuming alcohol. This is not the case. Oral steroids do impact the liver. They impact it by throwing the enzymes in the liver off and can cause hepatic impairment and juandice in some cases. This is where the importanance of support supplements come in to protect and support healthy function in the body. Also whatever side effects that do arise are reversible. Now alcohol effects the liver by depositing fatty tissues on the liver and causing stress on it from its harder ability to be broken down by the first pass. This can cause fatty liver disease, hepatitis, and cirrhosis. Alcohol is also the cause of many deaths in the United States from drunk driving. Alcohol impairs a person's function and that has consequences on others around and can jeopardize other people's safety. Anabolic steroids, prohormones and designers do not have this effect. Users of anabolics have full cognitive function from the entirety of use. This along begs the question as to why anabolics are being made illegal while there are other more harmful substances out there that are legal? Other legal drugs on the market carry a whole list of possible negative side effects that often out weigh the benefits of taking them. You always hear in those commercials of drugs being advertised and they always list severe symptoms like stroke, heart attack, rashes, and even sudden death. Again I ask why are these drugs aloud to be legal when a person could possibly drop dead instantly? This is a hypocrisy in the way the government and the FDA are operating which they are putting money ahead of sensibility.*
The passing of this bill will not even prevent people from using and buying anabolics. What this will do is move people to the black market to obtain anabolics. When a government bans a certain compound it immediately created a black market for the item. That will exactly be the case for anabolic prohormones and designers. The problem with these compounds being moved underground is that there are no quality control measures to ensure a person is getting what they paid for. This creates a safety issue for all who buy from the black market. If the government is so concerned about people's safety, why ban something when it will only contribute to more dangers? If the government is worried about safety they should instead worry about the way these products are being produced and making sure that all compounds are pure and safe for consumption.*
Anabolics have many positive effect on the human body. They promote growth and allow individuals to push themselves to the next level in their fitness. With responsible use, this can be done safely and effectively. The positives out weigh the negatives taking these compounds and the United States government should take the time to see this. If used responsibly, like all alcohol ads say, there will be no harm to an individual. If this law is passed it will be because of money, lobbying by the pharmaceutical industry, and a lack of sensibility by congressional members to see what these compounds really are. If passed they will only use it as a way to say they got something done in a polarized government, but yet they'll champion this while poverty, taxes and immigration should be front and center. Congress, get your act together and govern sensibly and non hypocritically so we can grow as a country and not trample over people's rights.
 
Doesn't really matter what we say.
The majority of the public sees only the "dark side" of all performance enhancement.
Looking back over the last few years at Lance Armstrong and Chris Benoit, they are just 2 examples of situations where the media can attack performance enhancing drugs.

Even tonight my mother saw a picture of a bodybuilder preparing to represent his country at the euro arnold and the first thing she says is "he's on steroids."
I think most people equate steroid use with freak physiques and try and take away from the hard work the athletes put in. What the general public doesn't realize is how many people are actually using and that the freaks are usually supervised by doctors and getting regular bloodwork where the average enhanced gym rat is less educated and not taking proper precautions.

It's funny how the public looks on people that are obviously using and people that are using but nobody knows.
If Lance Arnstrong had never won those titles would the public outcry have been as loud? Same question for Barry bonds and HR records.

Some average gym goers give their favorite sports star grief about using when their best friend and gym partner could very well be also.

The public doesn't like when people use steroids and achieve greatness. If they are pretty good or average and on steroids then less questions are asked and less attention is given.

I don't think the public cares about steroids as much as the government does, but the public likes a good story and a hero/sports figure getting popped for roids makes for a great story.
 
Doesn't really matter what we say.
The majority of the public sees only the "dark side" of all performance enhancement.
Looking back over the last few years at Lance Armstrong and Chris Benoit, they are just 2 examples of situations where the media can attack performance enhancing drugs.

Even tonight my mother saw a picture of a bodybuilder preparing to represent his country at the euro arnold and the first thing she says is "he's on steroids."
I think most people equate steroid use with freak physiques and try and take away from the hard work the athletes put in. What the general public doesn't realize is how many people are actually using and that the freaks are usually supervised by doctors and getting regular bloodwork where the average enhanced gym rat is less educated and not taking proper precautions.

It's funny how the public looks on people that are obviously using and people that are using but nobody knows.
If Lance Arnstrong had never won those titles would the public outcry have been as loud? Same question for Barry bonds and HR records.

Some average gym goers give their favorite sports star grief about using when their best friend and gym partner could very well be also.

The public doesn't like when people use steroids and achieve greatness. If they are pretty good or average and on steroids then less questions are asked and less attention is given.

I don't think the public cares about steroids as much as the government does, but the public likes a good story and a hero/sports figure getting popped for roids makes for a great story.

What really gets me is the amount of power this will create and give to the DEA and Attorney General, not to add the amount of limitations it will enforce on to company's marketing, advertising, write-ups, labels, etc. Royd The Noyd has made some finer points which may fall to our advantage but with that being said unless a unified 'action' is not taken by the community the end result will all be the same, it's just a matter of time. Words are okay but actions actually mean something.

You have to understand that the bill is a bipartisan issue and backed by some of the biggest supplement company's in the world and there is a certain unity and conviction shared between all party's to make this happen. Whatever the reason may be 'war on drugs masked as a financial escapade for these bigger companies', one thing is certain, there is 0 unity amongst the company's of this community, and historically speaking a unified and structured movement will almost always oust guerrilla warfare. So i ask you how can there even be a structured movement on our side when there is literally no unity in this so called community?

This literally means dems, republicans, even the biggest supplement companies have come together to make sure this passes through, what makes you think that we can actually stop them when we can't as a 'community' even coexist properly?
 
I guess they don't care that underground anabolic steroid use is about to explode onto the market like never before. People who never wanted to use UGL's will start using them. People who have never pinned before will start pinning. This isn't going to make anything change lol. All it's going to do is turn people into the real stuff. I mean you can always order overseas for prohormones but if you're going to take a risk might as well go balls out. More underground conpanies are going to pop up out of nowhere if this passes. Underground labs are going to start making a ton of money
 
What really gets me is the amount of power this will create and give to the DEA and Attorney General, not to add the amount of limitations it will enforce on to company's marketing, advertising, write-ups, labels, etc. Royd The Noyd has made some finer points which may fall to our advantage but with that being said unless a unified 'action' is not taken by the community the end result will all be the same, it's just a matter of time. Words are okay but actions actually mean something.

You have to understand that the bill is a bipartisan issue and backed by some of the biggest supplement company's in the world and there is a certain unity and conviction shared between all party's to make this happen. Whatever the reason may be 'war on drugs masked as a financial escapade for these bigger companies', one thing is certain, there is 0 unity amongst the company's of this community, and historically speaking a unified and structured movement will almost always oust guerrilla warfare. So i ask you how can there even be a structured movement on our side when there is literally no unity in this so called community?

This literally means dems, republicans, even the biggest supplement companies have come together to make sure this passes through, what makes you think that we can actually stop them when we can't as a 'community' even coexist properly?

I cannot understand why supplement companies would be in the bed with congress on this. I mean, to be honest, if they banned every single thing that converts to a steroid that still wouldn't increase my purchasing of more supplements than I purchase now.

Alternatives like EP1C or Follidrone? Perhaps an increase in those purchases or similar, maaaaaybe but that's it. It's not like we don't already know that most supplements are placebo, under dosed, or plan bull....helping to get pro/designers banned isn't going to change my spending habits on normal supplements at all.

If I'm not buying pros then I'll just leave the money in my checking account.
 
I guess they don't care that underground anabolic steroid use is about to explode onto the market like never before. People who never wanted to use UGL's will start using them. People who have never pinned before will start pinning. This isn't going to make anything change lol. All it's going to do is turn people into the real stuff. I mean you can always order overseas for prohormones but if you're going to take a risk might as well go balls out. More underground conpanies are going to pop up out of nowhere if this passes. Underground labs are going to start making a ton of money
That and about 60 cops/swat force in my tri county area are going to have the sad face if all are banned..
 
Its the very hypocritical nature of things, banning and regulating ph's would force more people to seek TRT, which equates to much more profit. Besides supplement companies look at who else is sponsoring the bill.
 
I'll just be completely honest here, if prohormones start carrying the same legal status as gear, I'll start pinning. I have a strange feeling that I'm not the only one.

All this bill is going to do is encourage more people to take part in illegal activities.
 
Well when **** needs to be sold. Hit me up, I'm stock piling for years.
 
Well yeah it will all be ug, but at that point we will just get aas. Ug ph sounds kinda counterintuitive ha
 
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