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What was your first injectable cycle ?

I'd run the test for longer. Like at least 12 weeks.
Also why anavar?

hmm okay, and according to all my research it has the least amount sides, used best for beginner cycle(s), and is great for cut which is what i want to do. I'm gonna natty cut from 210 to 195 then do the cycle is goal. My understanding is it is great for fat burning and muscle hardening as well as lean muscle building
 
hmm okay, and according to all my research it has the least amount sides, used best for beginner cycle(s), and is great for cut which is what i want to do. I'm gonna natty cut from 210 to 195 then do the cycle is goal. My understanding is it is great for fat burning and muscle hardening as well as lean muscle building

Hmm okay. I just don't think anavar does much for men, plus it's so expensive. For your first cycle and the intent of staying lean, I would go for tbol or something like that. Even epistane would be a great lean kicker for an injectable cycle.
 
Hmm okay. I just don't think anavar does much for men, plus it's so expensive. For your first cycle and the intent of staying lean, I would go for tbol or something like that. Even epistane would be a great lean kicker for an injectable cycle.

I know about epistane but i hear var is also good for healing injuries. back in highschool i tore my miniscus in wrestling and now after my heavy lift/bulk my knee is next to fked. so, thats also why i was gonna try it out. only thing is at my desired starting weight of 195 i dont know if to run at 60mg or 80mg
 
Hmm okay. I just don't think anavar does much for men, plus it's so expensive. For your first cycle and the intent of staying lean, I would go for tbol or something like that. Even epistane would be a great lean kicker for an injectable cycle.

Tbol and var should cost roughly the same, but var has a bigger name and commands a higher price.


First pinning cycle for me was simply test at 500mg/week for 10 weeks.
 
Tbol and var should cost roughly the same, but var has a bigger name and commands a higher price.


First pinning cycle for me was simply test at 500mg/week for 10 weeks.

but how much benefit would 500mg test/wk have on cut/recomp cycle? actual question not being smarta$$
 
That depends on your nutrition and training.

okay training is on point, i've been in the game for a little while now. i train compound 3 weeks, push/pull 3weeks. dead lifts twice a week. diet 6-7 MEALS. right now at my maint. macros about to transition to my cutting macros.
 
Tbol and var should cost roughly the same, but var has a bigger name and commands a higher price.


First pinning cycle for me was simply test at 500mg/week for 10 weeks.

What ester test did you use?
 
okay training is on point, i've been in the game for a little while now. i train compound 3 weeks, push/pull 3weeks. dead lifts twice a week. diet 6-7 MEALS. right now at my maint. macros about to transition to my cutting macros.

Let me rephrase. If you don't see a drastic difference, you either had bunk product or your plan was off.

What ester test did you use?

E.
 
Let me rephrase. If you don't see a drastic difference, you either had bunk product or your plan was off.



E.

How did that go for you? 10 weeks seems short for enanthate
 
10 isn't too short considering it kicks in within 7-10 days.

What?! You sure about that? Test E typically takes several weeks to really start getting full benefits from it. I took my first test shot of this cycle this past Sunday, I guarantee I won't really see much from it for another 3-4 weeks.
 
My first cycle was 16 weeks of test

Weeks 1-6 test prop 100mg/eod
Weeks 1-3 test c @250mg/wk
Weeks 4-10 test c @500mg/wk
Weeks 10-16 test c@1000mg/wk

I went a tad high on test for a first cycle, but man I legitimately gained 50lbs in 16 weeks from that sh*t.. I wish every cycle was like your first cycle :'(
 
My first cycle was 16 weeks of test

Weeks 1-6 test prop 100mg/eod
Weeks 1-3 test c @250mg/wk
Weeks 4-10 test c @500mg/wk
Weeks 10-16 test c@1000mg/wk

I went a tad high on test for a first cycle, but man I legitimately gained 50lbs in 16 weeks from that sh*t.. I wish every cycle was like your first cycle :'(

I like this!!
 
I like this!!

Bro life was amazing..this was right after I quit my job on this railroad (a decision I regret every day..) And had some $$ saved up so that whole cycle I just ate, trained, and slept. Trained twice a day and just watched myself growing in the mirror.
 
My first cycle was 16 weeks of test

Weeks 1-6 test prop 100mg/eod
Weeks 1-3 test c @250mg/wk
Weeks 4-10 test c @500mg/wk
Weeks 10-16 test c@1000mg/wk

I went a tad high on test for a first cycle, but man I legitimately gained 50lbs in 16 weeks from that sh*t.. I wish every cycle was like your first cycle :'(

That's awesome haha. 50lbs holy sh1t. I kept 15lbs from my first. I'm thinking about adding prop in these first 6 weeks
 
That's awesome haha. 50lbs holy sh1t. I kept 15lbs from my first. I'm thinking about adding prop in these first 6 weeks

I would add prop, honestly man 100mg prop eod had me feeling exponentially better than on 500mg/week of cyp.. That's why I jumped the dose up to 1g
 
What?! You sure about that? Test E typically takes several weeks to really start getting full benefits from it. I took my first test shot of this cycle this past Sunday, I guarantee I won't really see much from it for another 3-4 weeks.

Full benefits, yes, but the increased recovery, libido, and mood happen within the aforementioned timeframe.
 
I would add prop, honestly man 100mg prop eod had me feeling exponentially better than on 500mg/week of cyp.. That's why I jumped the dose up to 1g

I have 10mL just sitting around, was going to use it alongside tren ace later in the cycle but I think I'm just going to do a TRT dose of E or Cyp with the tren.
 
I have 10mL just sitting around, was going to use it alongside tren ace later in the cycle but I think I'm just going to do a TRT dose of E or Cyp with the tren.

So instead of running the prop with the tren you're considering kicking with the prop then just running the tren with the lower dose of test you'd be on?

If so I think that'd be solid man a lot of guys prefer running their tren higher than their test dose. I personally haven't done that though so I can't comment on effects
 
So instead of running the prop with the tren you're considering kicking with the prop then just running the tren with the lower dose of test you'd be on?

If so I think that'd be solid man a lot of guys prefer running their tren higher than their test dose. I personally haven't done that though so I can't comment on effects

Yeah that's what I'm switching it to! And just took 50mg prop to the glute so here we go lol. Doing 50mg EOD so the one vial lasts me almost 6 weeks. That's an extra 150-200mg test a week on top of the 250mg test E I'm doing now. Should be fun!
And I'm planning on 300mg tren/week and 150mg test.
 
Yeah that's what I'm switching it to! And just took 50mg prop to the glute so here we go lol. Doing 50mg EOD so the one vial lasts me almost 6 weeks. That's an extra 150-200mg test a week on top of the 250mg test E I'm doing now. Should be fun!
And I'm planning on 300mg tren/week and 150mg test.

Good stuff bro you definitely should have some fun with that! Are you logging this cycle?
 
Good stuff bro you definitely should have some fun with that! Are you logging this cycle?

Yessir i log everything in my workout log, and I'm also running a sponsored epiandro log the first 4 weeks.
 
My first cycle was 16 weeks of test

Weeks 1-6 test prop 100mg/eod
Weeks 1-3 test c @250mg/wk
Weeks 4-10 test c @500mg/wk
Weeks 10-16 test c@1000mg/wk

I went a tad high on test for a first cycle, but man I legitimately gained 50lbs in 16 weeks from that sh*t.. I wish every cycle was like your first cycle :'(

That honestly sounds like a fun ass first cycle no lie , and draw backs ? Keep estro in check ?
 
That honestly sounds like a fun ass first cycle no lie , and draw backs ? Keep estro in check ?

I had adex and letro on hand because I was paranoid but I never used them, figured I only would if I started seeing estrogen related sides but I never did it was just a solid, gnarly feeling cycle. Absolutely no sides or negative drawbacks from it at all.

It was a simple cycle but with the doses and the fact of it being the first exogenous hormones ever to enter my virgin body it was just awesome.
 
So instead of running the prop with the tren you're considering kicking with the prop then just running the tren with the lower dose of test you'd be on?

If so I think that'd be solid man a lot of guys prefer running their tren higher than their test dose. I personally haven't done that though so I can't comment on effects

For aesthetic and recomp, test<tren.
 
For aesthetic and recomp, test<tren.

I've also heard that keeping test lower than tren reduces side effects so it sounds like the best way to do things.
 
It helps to modulate them especially if sensitive to E2 or prolactin.

And I am indeed sensitive, so I'm taking all the precautions I can.
I already have caber, arimidex, exemestane, and letrozole. Actually I think I have a little bit of Prami as well lol
 
My first cycle was 16 weeks of test

Weeks 1-6 test prop 100mg/eod
Weeks 1-3 test c @250mg/wk
Weeks 4-10 test c @500mg/wk
Weeks 10-16 test c@1000mg/wk

I went a tad high on test for a first cycle, but man I legitimately gained 50lbs in 16 weeks from that sh*t.. I wish every cycle was like your first cycle :'(


that is legit insane.. lol
 
First blast. going down right now.

24 Weeks.

- Test E - 600mg P/W (Front Loaded) (Weeks 1-24)
- Dbol - 30mg ED (Kicker) (Weeks 1-4)
- NPP - 400mg P/W (Weeks 4-24)
- Anavar 80mg ED (Weeks 4-12)
- Aromasin 12.5mg EOD (Weeks 1-24) (Higher if needed.)

Cruise 12 weeks.

Test E (250mg P/W)
10mg LDG 4033
 
First and only inject cycle was...

Test C 18 weeks 600mg 1-9 then 900mg/wk til week 18

SD 20mg wk 1-5

Epistane 40mg wk 12-18

Went from about 220>260lbs haha. I was huge.
 
That's a long ass time with NPP. Why not just use deca at that point?

its an option. i just like the idea of a short ester for it during this run will be out of my system quicker once the blast is over, and make more of a lean bulker. but deca is something i want to save for another blast.
 
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