What to do if you cant get HCG?

BigVrunga

BigVrunga

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From what I understand, HCG is an essential part of PCT when using anabolic drugs. What if its not available? Can you still achieve good results from Nolva alone?

Are there any supplements or chemicals out there that would be a decent substitute for HCG?

BigV
 
Well, first, hcg shouldnt be used for pct, as it is surpressive.

Now, I don't believe there are any substitutes for hcg, and from what I have read, hcg is usually used for longer or super surpressive cycles.
 
BigVrunga said:
From what I understand, HCG is an essential part of PCT when using anabolic drugs. Can you still achieve good results from Nolva alone?

BigV
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no it is not essential. Sometimes its better to use it. (16 week cycles, running tren during end of cycle.) If you can't get it, you can't get it. Simple as that.

If your cycle is within reason and theres nothing too extreme i wouldn't worry about it.
 
OT: Big V do you think that FF lyric is directed at Dino?

ManBeast
 
Hey Manbeast just looking through some old threads...

Yeah I knew it was directed toward Dino. Dont get me wrong, I love Dino-era FF, I quoted it because it means something to me. Like me throwing all the BS out of my life so I can focus on what matters:)

What do you think of the new album, BTW?

I love it, but it dosent crush me like Demanufacture or Obsolete. I liked Dino's guitar tone better, too.

BV
 
I agree on all points... I miss the old **** tremendously... but the current lineup isn't bad in any way. I've been listening to a lot of hatebreed, slipknot, mudvayne, and black label society lately and haven't really sat down with the new FF just because it didn't "rock" me in any real special way the first couple times I listened to it all the way through.

ManBeast
 
Exactly, I totally dug it - but quickly went on the new Killswitch Engage album, which stayed in my CD player for weeks. Im going to see Lamb of God and FF next month, though. Maybe Ill get back into it:D

BV
 
HCG has become the norm today. However, if you look back a few years, you will see that HCG usage was not as common.
 
MB and BV: have any of you heard the new DevilDriver? Its pretty good stuff. Lead singer from Coal Chamber heads it up.
 
Ive heard of them - Ive yet to check them out though. I heard a Shadows Fall tune on Fuse last night. I was impressed by that. So much of the new metal comming out just kicks major ass - Its like melodic death metal finally made it to the surface.

BV
 
Devil Driver is a "local" band since Dez lives up in this county. The mother of the guitarist comes into my gym. :D I dig what I've heard from them so far, Dez does much better in that lower register IMHO than he did in Coal Chamber.

ManBeast
 
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