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MedRat

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Ive been on trt a few years now. A year ago I started to blast and cruise. Jumped up to 600mg per week of cyp,no gains. Added some Dianabol, got doc to give me more blood pressure meds, still nothing. Changed weight reps sets etc. Nothing at all. Looking to add Equipose or deca. I need some opinions. Which one and how much? Should I drop the cyp down when I add one of these?Would it be better to drop the Dianabol? Thanks very much.
 
Brain5ick said:
How long have you been lifting and how many calories do you eat per day plus rest days?
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Ive been lifting off and on all my life. Ive been back just over a year. I work out with a 3 day split. Bench,Squat, and Deadlift. Its basically every other day. I haven't veen calorie counting. I practically eat an entire cow every few days.
 
MedRat said:
Ive been lifting off and on all my life. Ive been back just over a year. I work out with a 3 day split. Bench,Squat, and Deadlift. Its basically every other day. I haven't veen calorie counting. I practically eat an entire cow every few days.
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That’s odd. I can’t see you not growing on all that gear. I make it sound like a lot lol but you know what I mean. Weight? Also do you plan on ever coming off test?
 
MedRat said:
Ive been on trt a few years now. A year ago I started to blast and cruise. Jumped up to 600mg per week of cyp,no gains. Added some Dianabol, got doc to give me more blood pressure meds, still nothing. Changed weight reps sets etc. Nothing at all. Looking to add Equipose or deca. I need some opinions. Which one and how much? Should I drop the cyp down when I add one of these?Would it be better to drop the Dianabol? Thanks very much.
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Youre doing 600 mg of test a week and dianabol and cant gain? Have you ever done blood tests while on? If youre working out and taking that much aas youre gonna gain. If your bloods are good then its ur nutrition.
 
joonp said:
Youre doing 600 mg of test a week and dianabol and cant gain? Have you ever done blood tests while on? If youre working out and taking that much aas youre gonna gain. If your bloods are good then its ur nutrition.
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That or it’s bunk. I hate to be that guy but it has to be one or the other. I mean even if your nutrition isn’t the best ever you should still see some kind of change.
 
Brain5ick said:
That or it’s bunk. I hate to be that guy but it has to be one or the other. I mean even if your nutrition isn’t the best ever you should still see some kind of change.
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Yes i agree. Thats why im asking about bloods. That much aas you should gain. My guess is its underdosed or bunk
 
joonp said:
Yes i agree. Thats why im asking about bloods. That much aas you should gain. My guess is its underdosed or bunk
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Ive suspected its underdosed for a while. I was on Watson Test Cyp but, I lost my insurance and cant afford to see the urologist any more. General Practitioners refuse to write for test here.

I haven't had bloodwork done since last year. Ive had to resort to all these Chinese powder sellers. I think that if the stuff is legit that its been sitting around a long time. Ive even tried to increase the cyp to 300mg/ml. That seems to be about the upper limit it can go without crashing.

Its gonna cost more but, after the holidays, I was considering a more reputable UG lab ive heard very good things about on BoP.
 
Brain5ick said:
That’s odd. I can’t see you not growing on all that gear. I make it sound like a lot lol but you know what I mean. Weight? Also do you plan on ever coming off test?
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I cant come off of test completely. I was diagnosed with secondary hypogonadism. The urologist said he would treat me for life but, his non insurance rates are much more than I can afford. Ive got a lot of things Im working on for next year. I hope to earn more money.
 
MedRat said:
Ive suspected its underdosed for a while. I was on Watson Test Cyp but, I lost my insurance and cant afford to see the urologist any more. General Practitioners refuse to write for test here.

I haven't had bloodwork done since last year. Ive had to resort to all these Chinese powder sellers. I think that if the stuff is legit that its been sitting around a long time. Ive even tried to increase the cyp to 300mg/ml. That seems to be about the upper limit it can go without crashing.

Its gonna cost more but, after the holidays, I was considering a more reputable UG lab ive heard very good things about on BoP.
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Im sure there reputable sources here. Just search the threads.
 
Sounds like bunk

I’m on Trt 180mg a week and my nutrición is not the best because I eat what ever, and I’m making gains.slow gains but still making muscle
 
joonp said:
Im sure there reputable sources here. Just search the threads.
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Ill see what I can find and see about prices. Ive got presents for kids and such, holidays. January or February I should be able to set some money aside.

I tried 3 different powder sellers and they all seem to be about the same. Ive had a few guys tell me they ordered and stuff seemed legit but, none of them had been on real pharmaceutical grade testosterone.
 
MedRat said:
Ill see what I can find and see about prices. Ive got presents for kids and such, holidays. January or February I should be able to set some money aside.

I tried 3 different powder sellers and they all seem to be about the same. Ive had a few guys tell me they ordered and stuff seemed legit but, none of them had been on real pharmaceutical grade testosterone.
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I dont brew so idk bout any of that. Just read threads etc and youll see who is reputable. Be active on the forum and get to know people. Networking helps a lot too
 
joonp said:
I dont brew so idk bout any of that. Just read threads etc and youll see who is reputable. Be active on the forum and get to know people. Networking helps a lot too
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Im starting to think all the powder sellers are ripping us off in one way or another. Ive heard good things about RB and the big Gpharm.

I appreciate everyones responses, thank you all.
 
Hmm, I don't think more gear is going to help. Sounds like it's either bunk or your diet and regimen are off.

I would find another source and start counting calories. Also what does your workout look like?
Are you lifting to failure?
 
Ase_james said:
Hmm, I don't think more gear is going to help. Sounds like it's either bunk or your diet and regimen are off.

I would find another source and start counting calories. Also what does your workout look like?
Are you lifting to failure?
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The big thing with counting is you might feel like it's enough or the right stuff.
But personally, I don't gain unless I'm somewhere around 300 grams of carbs and close with protein. Eating that much is uncomfortable. But it is what it is. For me at least.
 
Ase_james said:
Hmm, I don't think more gear is going to help. Sounds like it's either bunk or your diet and regimen are off.

I would find another source and start counting calories. Also what does your workout look like?
Are you lifting to failure?
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Yes, I lift to failure each time. Ill start calorie counting again. Something was grabbed by Customs and they listed the product. It was what I ordered. I dont know anything about cutting chemicals. I do know that meds get weaker if they sit around. I thought perhaps some deca or equipose to kick everything up a notch. After posting here Ill continue with what I have and move to a domestic source with better product in 2019.
 
I was talking to a friend tonight who is a pharmacist. He knows Im in the medical field also. I felt like such an idiot after talking to him. I said I had a patient tell me their pills weren't working for insomnia. After a while he said you are forgetting something. I said no I believe ive covered everything. He said you forgot shelf life.

Thats my answer to the problems with the Chinese powder sellers. I and many others dont know when these powders were created. We dont know how theyve been stored.

Yeah if you test them they come up as the correct steroid. What we dobt know is how potent they still are. How fast they degraded. I could have kicked myself. Once I use up what I have ill be switching to a domestic source with a quality reputation. Thanks everyone and I hope this thread will help others understand and steer them in a better direction.
 
MedRat said:
I cant come off of test completely. I was diagnosed with secondary hypogonadism. The urologist said he would treat me for life but, his non insurance rates are much more than I can afford. Ive got a lot of things Im working on for next year. I hope to earn more money.
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Entourage is a board sponsor. Their prices are very reasonable and I bet are much cheaper than what you’re paying with a urologist. PM kenpoengineer. He’s a patient with them.
 
If your not gaining weight and putting on muscle your not eating enough or consistantly. Plain and simple
 
MedRat said:
Yes, I lift to failure each time. Ill start calorie counting again. Something was grabbed by Customs and they listed the product. It was what I ordered. I dont know anything about cutting chemicals. I do know that meds get weaker if they sit around. I thought perhaps some deca or equipose to kick everything up a notch. After posting here Ill continue with what I have and move to a domestic source with better product in 2019.
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I would add food, more gear will do nothing if the test does nothing.

Testosterone is the king, the rest are what you add when you get results from testosterone...
 
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