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What should i stack with Test and Tren?

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Women are people just like you my friend.

You'll understand what that means when you meet the woman who'll make you feel like you need to be better. You won't be able to just dump her for some *********.

I have friends with children (girls to be more precise) and they would be very angry to see comments like yours.

They are not trying to take a piss on you... They're trying to make you understand that you're wrong about life and steroid use. Yes, they also want a better looking body, but they've already made their mistakes and learned from those mistakes.
 
Just the typical Eat, Fight, Fukc mentality of a 20 year old boy. I was this as well, but without Test & Tren LOL.

It's all good man, we get it. No one's trying to tell you how to live. Your 30 year old self will not hold these things in the same regard. And then 40 year old self will laugh at them all.

I'm pushing 40, married, 4 kids (2 daughters), and in the best shape of my life. Doesn't mean I need to F-around to be happy. I just have an extremely happy wife ;-) And I would kick my 20 year old self's ass to the moon and back.
 
Maybe I took it too far but when I see comments like yours it just makes me Think what a douche.. Maybe you're a nice guy and all but this anger and this only care about yourself won't take you anywhere in life and when you get older you'll realize how many people that were and still are looking down on you because of your choices. Like previously stated we're not hating on you because we hate you, we're just older and nobody here I perfect
 
Meh, no sympathy from me OP. Its the risk you take posting your crap on a public forum.

I have enjoyed the irony of your wounded sensitivity after talking smack about no fuks given; "fuk bishes man its all about my cawk on-cycle...waaah you guize are being MEAN to me!"

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Nac said:
Meh, no sympathy from me OP. Its the risk you take posting your crap on a public forum.

I have enjoyed the irony of your wounded sensitivity after talking smack about no fuks given; "fuk bishes man its all about my cawk on-cycle...waaah you guize are being MEAN to me!"

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Its not like im gonna get hurt if u were talking ****, i was just telling the guys to calm down and that it isnt a serious matter and also talk about what the thread was about, changing the subject is fine and so is criticism but not an utter and complete roast buts its all cool and i see where they are coming from and i agree with Dma378 i most probably will laugh at my mentality when im older but for now ima stick to it, i dont need ur sympathy man i just wanted the forum to change from a roast.
 
Thegoodthebad said:
Women are people just like you my friend.

You'll understand what that means when you meet the woman who'll make you feel like you need to be better. You won't be able to just dump her for some *********.

I have friends with children (girls to be more precise) and they would be very angry to see comments like yours.

They are not trying to take a piss on you... They're trying to make you understand that you're wrong about life and steroid use. Yes, they also want a better looking body, but they've already made their mistakes and learned from those mistakes.
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I got bro's who are women who actually laugh at the **** i say and do but they do get annoyed sometimes, man i tried the whole serious finding the perfect one and falling in love and it always ended with someone hurt, and tbh im not taking the piss at any of u guys in relationships in fact ur lucky that u can settle for one girl and be happy together but i(for now atleast) get even bored of an occasional hook up if its the same girl.

I may come off as a dick, but women arent angels too man :p
 
Btw guys is it possible that strength gains are kicking in on day 3 of tren?

When i was cutting for the past 2 months i lost a lot of strength and for example could only bench 100 lbs dumbbells each hand on incline for 5 reps and usually stuck with 90 for around 10, but today on my 3rd day i took the 110 lbs dumbbells each hand on incline and went for full 8 reps.
I also felt the aggression while training like usually i would kinda be scared pushing heavy dumbbells up fearing injury and failure but i just threw them up like nothing today with full confidence and aggression, this cant be placebo and its kinda strange since im on keto but i did up my sodium for electrolytes.
I injected at the gym like 15 mins before my workout.

I specified each hand to avoid confusion as below :D
 
JoeStethics said:
Btw guys is it possible that strength gains are kicking in on day 3 of tren?

When i was cutting for the past 2 months i lost a lot of strength and for example could only bench 100 lbs for 5 reps and usually stuck with 90 for around 10, but today on my 3rd day i took the 110 and went for full 8 reps.

I injected at the gym like 15 mins before my workout.
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Dude I'm not making fun of you but you're seriuosly running gear when you set 110lbs? no matter what you think, you are not even close to your genetic potential I ran my first cycle at 6'4 210 and repped 185 and it pushed me to 235 and it was OG sust 250 and EQ 250 for 12 weeks nothing amazing but if youre not even at 1 plate you need to re-evaluate things after this cycle, diet, lifestyle, health, everything.

What are your hopefull expectations from this cycle? If everything works out perfect?
 
FRITZBLITZ said:
Dude I'm not making fun of you but you're seriuosly running gear when you set 110lbs? no matter what you think, you are not even close to your genetic potential I ran my first cycle at 6'4 210 and repped 185 and it pushed me to 235 and it was OG sust 250 and EQ 250 for 12 weeks nothing amazing but if youre not even at 1 plate you need to re-evaluate things after this cycle, diet, lifestyle, health, everything.

What are your hopefull expectations from this cycle? If everything works out perfect?
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Get as lean as possible, hardened effects and maintain or increase my strength and lean muscle mass.

NO not ordinary bench man i meant dumbell each and on incline, im not that ****ing weak haha.

Imagine me benching 110 and going on cycle should have been more specific, on the flat barbell bench i can put around 240 lbs while cutting, didnt try with tren which hopefully would have increased as my incline did but my strength is increasing compared to before on my cut, still didnt reach same weights as bulk.
 
JoeStethics said:
Get as lean as possible, hardened effects and maintain or increase my strength and lean muscle mass.

NO not ordinary bench man i meant dumbell each and on incline, im not that ****ing weak haha.

Imagine me benching 110 and going on cycle should have been more specific, on the normal bench i can put around 240 lbs while cutting, didnt try with tren which hopefully would have increased as my incline did but my strength is increasing compared to before on my cut, still didnt reach same weights as bulk.
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So youre dumbell pressing 110 in each hand or total? and what's your hight weight?
 
JoeStethics said:
Each hand on incline, 6'1 currently 203 lbs.
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Thats respectable. I'm not going to dog you, you've already made your choice. But you do need to reevaluate how important gear is, There is no way I would chuck my GF for a certain compound! I would rather run winny and Mast than Tren and a ****ty attitude. That doesn't make sense at all. Infact if gear makes your decisions for you, you shouldn't be running gear
 
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Thats respectable. I'm not going to dog you, you've already made your choice. But you do need to reevaluate how important gear is, There is no way I would chuck my GF for a certain compound! I would rather run winny and Mast than Tren and a ****ty attitude. That doesn't make sense at all. Infact if gear makes your decisions for you, you shouldn't be running gear
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Its not about that specific girl man, it happened when i was thinking about taking tren and i read about the aggression,jealousy and paranoia for relationship dudes so i thought to myself if i cant take a compound because of this girl im done as she used to stress the **** out of me and piss me off, sure we had good times but still, but dont get it confused the main reason is because im just not the relationship one girl kinda guy tbh i just cant stand waking up next to the same face and being tamed just isnt me.
 
FRITZBLITZ said:
Also why are you trying to lean out? 6'1 203 seems very shredded if your pressing 220
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I wish i was already shredded, for some reason im not and im pressing 240 on flat bench barbell too.
But i realized as my weight is going down especially on keto, my waist is getting tighter so hopefully on tren i would be shredded by the end of the cycle.
Also if i were shredded but small, skinny, and weak its definitely not worth it i would rather stay at a higher body fat with size and strength than that, but on test and tren both is supposed to be possible.

So do u think the strength gains are kicking in or is it just placebo or something?
 
Yo guys, wanted to ask u again about stacking t3 with test and tren as on tren thyroid is lowered, so say i run a low dose starting at 25 mcg just for replacement of my natural thyroid hormone instead of lowered and maybe if u guys do recommend it for more fat loss i increase to 50 mcg max.
This should aid in fat loss especially with tren and possibly help me reach under 10% body fat if possible and since im on test and tren i shouldnt have to worry about catabolism especially at the doses im thinking of.
I read about the thyroid hormone suppression and most studies show that thyroid hormone recovers just well even with people who have used that **** for decades, but extremely high doses can possibly cause suppression.

What do u guys think and will it increase the flat look as i seem to look a bit flatter on keto and cutting, and if u guys dont think i should or its negatives outweigh the positives then what u recommend using for extra help in melting off fat?it doesnt have to be anabolic or anything specific just something to aid in fat loss and yes yes caloric deficit is the most important i know, so what ya think?
 
Jesuz fykn krist your main concern with taking all these drugs is you may look flatter?

Holy fuk you are a retard. You really fukn are. I actually hope you get some bad sides on tren, might scare some sense into you.
 
Don't mess with your thyroid gland bro.
 
Nac said:
Jesuz fykn krist your main concern with taking all these drugs is you may look flatter?

Holy fuk you are a retard. You really fukn are. I actually hope you get some bad sides on tren, might scare some sense into you.
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Holy fuk u ****ing retard try and understand what the **** i was saying, i know about the sides and all that u retard im talking about its effects and i did say if the negatives outweigh the positives, man just **** off if ur not gonna be useful.

I was saying keep in mind when u advise me about t3 i am already feeling flat so if it will increase this effect on this dose i want to know.

U think its a bad idea and more bad will result than good? Then say so and keep it at that.
 
F*** up your thyroid and you'll hate yourself for the rest of your life. I personally would never touch T3.

Let the Tren and test do their job... You're like 4-5 days in... Patience is a virtue
 
Thegoodthebad said:
F*** up your thyroid and you'll hate yourself for the rest of your life. I personally would never touch T3.

Let the Tren and test do their job... You're like 4-5 days in... Patience is a virtue
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I wasn't gonna stack t3 from the start and just stay on it, but like if it complements the thyroid suppression on tren, and btw thats what i meant about the suppressing t3 not being true and that it seems to recover fine.

If not t3 what do u think i can take(supplement,drug,anabolic) that is kinda considered safe to aid in fat loss.
 
JoeStethics said:
I wasn't gonna stack t3 from the start and just stay on it, but like if it complements the thyroid suppression on tren, and btw thats what i meant about the suppressing t3 not being true and that it seems to recover fine.

If not t3 what do u think i can take(supplement,drug,anabolic) that is kinda considered safe to aid in fat loss.
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You could take test and tren and do keto.

But I do empathise, if youre already doing that and at 4 days in are still not 3% bodyfat and pulling pu$$y like you want.
 
Less carbs. Just work on your patience and focus on getting the most out of your current cycle.
 
Nac said:
You could take test and tren and do keto.

But I do empathise, if youre already doing that and at 4 days in are still not 3% bodyfat and pulling pu$$y like you want.
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That was actually pretty funny but ffs man ur stereotyping my attitude when u didn't understand what i meant.
 
JoeStethics said:
That was actually pretty funny but ffs man ur stereotyping my attitude when u didn't understand what i meant.
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Sorry, all that stuck out to me was "will t3 make me look flat" coupled with "I dumped my gf cos I wanna slay poon with my tren cawk".
 
JoeStethics said:
btw what do u think about my DNP+sauna combo as i said above?
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I think t3 is a less risky option. But having to choose between the two in this situation, for me, is like "what would be better, running around on the freeway blindfolded, or driving without a seatbelt for the next 4 weeks?"

Youre on tren, and test, and 20yo. How much more self-inflicted risk do you want to introduce to your life?
 
Nac said:
I think t3 is a less risky option. But having to choose between the two, for me, is like "what would be better, running around on the freeway blindfolded, or driving without a seatbelt for the next 4 weeks?"
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The time u were actually supposed to start telling me im a retard and that im ****ing myself up is now man, i was taking the piss about the DNP+sauna thing, but on a serious note what about an OTC fat burner like hydroxycut? My only fear is if it increases insomnia.
Thegoodthebad
 
I'm all about keeping things simple and getting the work done with less rather than overdoing things.

You're already doing Test, Tren and Keto. Give it some time and you'll see that you don't need anything else.
 
JoeStethics said:
The time u were actually supposed to start telling me im a retard and that im ****ing myself up is now man, i was taking the piss about the DNP+sauna thing
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I find a multi-directional approach, and not just swearing, is most effective at hammering home a point.

Im actually surprised you were joking. So we all can learn from these exchanges.
 
My god dude you haven't even started the cycle and you wanna run something else it takes time with or with out steroids to drop body fat.. tren is fantastic just read peoples opnions ... we don't wanna help you because we don't want to be involved with you destrying yourself, we don't want that responsibility. look if you can't get results on tren or test youre out of shape,lazy or eating bad. By the way do you I understand how much more value it will have if it takes some time, if it takes 16 weeks waiting instead of 1 which isn't gonna happen anyway but still
 
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