What PED’s gave you side effects such as: mood changes, appetite, insomnia, lethargy, libido etc...

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Hey guys I wanted to try and start a thread on anecdotal side effects or lab work/scientific evidence side effects.

So what side effects (good or bad) have you guys experienced from things like:

AAS (oral, injectable, transdermal)
Prohormones
SARMs
SERMS
AI’s
Clen
Ephedra
Yohimbine
T3
T4
HGH
GH secretagogue’s (dac, cjc, GHRP6, etc..)
IGH-1
MK677
YK11
Insulin
Cialis
Viagra
BPC-157
(Whatever else anyone can think of)


Natural Products:
Test boosters
Arachidonic Acid
Laxogenin
Epicatechin
Fat burners
Topical fat burners
Thyroid enhancing products (natural)


I know I’m probably missing a lot of things, so this is just a start.

This isn’t intended to be a thread where “Brad said he gained 20lbs in a month”.

It’s more intended for side effects like tren-somnia, deca-Dick, deca lubricating your joints. Tren making you pissed off at the world.

HGH and it’s secretagogues increasing appetite.



Let’s hear what everyone has to say!
 
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For example:

Yohimbine: gives me terrible anxiety anything over 2.5mg.

M-sten: makes me lethargic and depressed

Superdrol: makes me super confident and like I’m king of the world

Oral Trendione: exacerbates my already existing insomnia

MK677: doesn’t really effect my appetite even at 30mg


Arachadonic Acid: gives me pumps so good I actually had to lower the weight and reps but still got a better workout ( I’ve noticed it’s very brand specific though)

I’ve only tried 1 topical fat burning( lipo-6 defining gel) and it just feels like I put icy hot on my stomach. I’m probably currently too high of BF % to notice a difference.


When taking natty test boosters my libido skyrockets after only a few days. Morning wood and random erections throughout the day.
 
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I’m so fuvking bored right not I’m mad about it. Literally. Msten? Maybe I’m fuckin pissed over how bored I am
 

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Not sure what you mean man. But M-sten is short methylstenbolone a methylated “bulking” pro hormone.

Are you saying that msten makes you bored and pissed off?
 
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For example:

Yohimbine: gives me terrible anxiety anything over 2.5mg.

M-sten: makes me lethargic and depressed

Superdrol: makes me super confident and like I’m kind of the world

Oral Trenavar: exacerbates my already existing insomnia

MK677: doesn’t really effect my appetite even at 30mg


Arachadonic Acid: gives me pumps so good I actually hide to lower the weight and reps but still got a better give ( I’ve noticed it’s very brand specific though)

I’ve only tried 1 topical fat burning( lipo-6 defining gel) and it just feels like I put icy hot on my stomach. I’m probably currently too high of BF % to notice a difference.


When taking natty test boosters my libido skyrockets after only a few days. Morning wood and random erections throughout the day.
combination of Invictus/vii-kt gives quick results of fat burning targeting abs. no burning, and seems to work regardless of bf%.
 

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One a these compounds is making me extremely fuckin confident tho. Ain’t never felt like this in my life. Literally feel invincible. Almost tren like but even better
 
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hide your bishes if im on dat der trestolone… no one is safe~

tren = uncontrollable libido.. nothing can satisfy it.

OG trenadrol = uncontrolable strength curve.. aBSOLUTELY ABNOXIOUS strngth gains.

DecaDurabolin = eased the joints and killed my libido.

NPP = eased joints slow libido but good strength.
 

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One a these compounds is making me extremely fuckin confident tho. Ain’t never felt like this in my life. Literally feel invincible. Almost tren like but even better
That’s like me on superdrol with or without a test base!
 

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19- nors=

hide your bishes if im on dat der trestolone… no one is safe~

tren = uncontrollable libido.. nothing can satisfy it.

OG trenadrol = uncontrolable strength curve.. aBSOLUTELY ABNOXIOUS strngth gains.

DecaDurabolin = eased the joints and killed my libido.

NPP = eased joints slow libido but good strength.
See trendione makes me limp as a noodle.

Haven’t tried injectable Trest yet just oral. Half life is so short it feels like it has no side effects for me.
 

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One a these compounds is making me extremely fuckin confident tho. Ain’t never felt like this in my life. Literally feel invincible. Almost tren like but even better
What are you on? Superdrol does that to me, makes me feel unstoppable.
 
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Most noticeable side effects came from arachidonic acid and arimistane for me, both gave me great pumps, vascularity, fullness, great strength gains, but also aching joints, controllable though. Arimistane made me shed water and dry out and harden, ARA made me feel super full and a little watery. I know this is kiddo level "supplementation" on here but figured id give my .02
*edit* ARA also gave me insane body heat during workouts. That slipped my mind initially but worth mentioning.
 
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I know we’re mostly talking AAS and prohormones in here, but if anyone answering this question has tried rad140, can you mention any side effects you got from that? I’m especially curious about how it effects mood, energy levels, and libido.
 
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All aas I've tried thus far changes my mood. I would be surprised if there was someone on whom aas wouldn't have psychological changes. It effects everyone - some just don't notice it that much b/c they aren't that self aware. Period.

That beeing said, all aas make me sleep worse and make me more aggressive, short tempered, more prone to violence, etc. They especially make me less emotionally sensitive. Hard to feel the full spectrum of emotions when on cycle.

This is imo the worst side of aas that doesn't get nearly enough attention then it should.
 

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All aas I've tried thus far changes my mood. I would be surprised if there was someone on whom aas wouldn't have psychological changes. It effects everyone - some just don't notice it that much b/c they aren't that self aware. Period.

That beeing said, all aas make me sleep worse and make me more aggressive, short tempered, more prone to violence, etc. They especially make me less emotionally sensitive. Hard to feel the full spectrum of emotions when on cycle.

This is imo the worst side of aas that doesn't get nearly enough attention then it should.
Yep, definitely the narcissism kicks in a bit, much more self-focused and less emotional about things.

Which is actually a plus for me, none of the emotional bullsh1t and depressive episodes i normally get from time to time off cycle.
 

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I know we’re mostly talking AAS and prohormones in here, but if anyone answering this question has tried rad140, can you mention any side effects you got from that? I’m especially curious about how it effects mood, energy levels, and libido.
I haven’t run it solo, just in combo with other things!
 

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All aas I've tried thus far changes my mood. I would be surprised if there was someone on whom aas wouldn't have psychological changes. It effects everyone - some just don't notice it that much b/c they aren't that self aware. Period.

That beeing said, all aas make me sleep worse and make me more aggressive, short tempered, more prone to violence, etc. They especially make me less emotionally sensitive. Hard to feel the full spectrum of emotions when on cycle.

This is imo the worst side of aas that doesn't get nearly enough attention then it should.



Great info here! This is what I was looking for!
 

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Most noticeable side effects came from arachidonic acid and arimistane for me, both gave me great pumps, vascularity, fullness, great strength gains, but also aching joints, controllable though. Arimistane made me shed water and dry out and harden, ARA made me feel super full and a little watery. I know this is kiddo level "supplementation" on here but figured id give my .02
*edit* ARA also gave me insane body heat during workouts. That slipped my mind initially but worth mentioning.
We are all here to learn from each other. That’s why I started this thread!
 
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Yep, definitely the narcissism kicks in a bit, much more self-focused and less emotional about things.

Which is actually a plus for me, none of the emotional bullsh1t and depressive episodes i normally get from time to time off cycle.
Oh yeah, forgot about that one. Narcissism big time yup. There is a plus side to it, you kinda start building more self worth. Not talking about muscle gains due to cycle but the narcissism part is pointed in the direction of reminding you that you are a solid person, a force. If you know what I mean. And you kinda keep some of that after cycle.
 

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Oh yeah, forgot about that one. Narcissism big time yup. There is a plus side to it, you kinda start building more self worth. Not talking about muscle gains due to cycle but the narcissism part is pointed in the direction of reminding you that you are a solid person, a force. If you know what I mean. And you kinda keep some of that after cycle.
That’s how I feel on superdrol but msten makes me feel like ****!
 

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Prohormones: Dmz gave me good mass gains and a decent amount of strength seems to be more “friendly” to me than msten was. Msten gave me a decent amount of size but the strength was amazing. Bloodwork was always trash after doing these as well. Lipids were trash and test was always tanked.
Aas: dbol was just a nasty 6 weeks, bloated all the time, irritable most likely related to being hot all the time and no sleep. Felt strong in the gym and definitely added mass but most of it went away after cycle. Tbol gives me decent pumps, a little bit of strength but seemed to have a lot of muscle cramps while on it. Test has changed my life. Mood, energy, and libido all have been positively impacted since being put on trt. I don’t love the idea of sticking myself twice a week forever but it’s part of it.
Pct’s: Clomid was usually the go to for pct. I didn’t really notice any emotional sides like you’d hear about from some users. I never dosed it over 25mgs either though.
Only ai I have ever ran is exemastane. Haven’t seen a reason to run any other ai.
Prolactin control: Prami gives me some weird ass sides even at the lowest dose and dosing eOD. Insomnia and nausea were the worst.
I’ve seen where some people tolerate it well and some people tolerate caber better. Guess I’ll try caber if there’s a need for it next cycle.
Mk gave me some crazy water retention. Couldn’t run it. Sermorellin (hope that’s spelled correctly) was another one I tried. Recovery might have been a little better but it also could’ve just been in my head. Didn’t do bloods to see if gh had increase so nothing to report really other than it didn’t blow me up like a water balloon.
 

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Prohormones: Dmz gave me good mass gains and a decent amount of strength seems to be more “friendly” to me than msten was. Msten gave me a decent amount of size but the strength was amazing. Bloodwork was always trash after doing these as well. Lipids were trash and test was always tanked.
Aas: dbol was just a nasty 6 weeks, bloated all the time, irritable most likely related to being hot all the time and no sleep. Felt strong in the gym and definitely added mass but most of it went away after cycle. Tbol gives me decent pumps, a little bit of strength but seemed to have a lot of muscle cramps while on it. Test has changed my life. Mood, energy, and libido all have been positively impacted since being put on trt. I don’t love the idea of sticking myself twice a week forever but it’s part of it.
Pct’s: Clomid was usually the go to for pct. I didn’t really notice any emotional sides like you’d hear about from some users. I never dosed it over 25mgs either though.
Only ai I have ever ran is exemastane. Haven’t seen a reason to run any other ai.
Prolactin control: Prami gives me some weird ass sides even at the lowest dose and dosing eOD. Insomnia and nausea were the worst.
I’ve seen where some people tolerate it well and some people tolerate caber better. Guess I’ll try caber if there’s a need for it next cycle.
Mk gave me some crazy water retention. Couldn’t run it. Sermorellin (hope that’s spelled correctly) was another one I tried. Recovery might have been a little better but it also could’ve just been in my head. Didn’t do bloods to see if gh had increase so nothing to report really other than it didn’t blow me up like a water balloon.
This is honestly great information! The kind of stuff I was hoping for when I started this thread.

Any ideas on how to get more people to post their personal experiences?


Side note: I think my test might be bunk or the msten is just killing my libido, mood, motivation and just all around feel almost depressed.
 

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Oh yeah, forgot about that one. Narcissism big time yup. There is a plus side to it, you kinda start building more self worth. Not talking about muscle gains due to cycle but the narcissism part is pointed in the direction of reminding you that you are a solid person, a force. If you know what I mean. And you kinda keep some of that after cycle.
Want compound or cycle gave you the narcissistic tendencies?? I could always use some of that!
 

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Can someone tag a bunch of the longterm members or members with a lot of cycle experience?

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Can someone tag a bunch of the longterm members or members with a lot of cycle experience?
You know, we talk about aas sides and benefits all the time here. We all know what dbol does to you compared to SD or tbol or test, etc. So for me and others, this might be a dull thread. So I'm going to reframe from taging anybody just for this.

Now, if we're talking about something specific, as in the emotional/psychological sides that doesn't get talked about much, then for me at least, it's interesting.
 
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You know, we talk about aas sides and benefits all the time here. We all know what dbol does to you compared to SD or tbol or test, etc. So for me and others, this might be a dull thread. So I'm going to reframe from taging anybody just for this.

Now, if we're talking about something specific, as in the emotional/psychological sides that doesn't get talked about much, then for me at least, it's interesting.
I like the idea of talking about psychological effects of different compounds. If the OP doesn’t want to devote this thread to that, then maybe we should start a new one.
 

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Alright I’ll address the question
Test:feel like a rock happy confident horny can’t move me moderate mass and strength look big lots of skin issues

Deca: depressed with a bit of anger slowly throws on solid mass

Tren: look like a bodybuilder but a bit flat muscle wise never need more than 350 a week 700 was too much, feels like u can do anything like u just did cocaine (I don’t do it but I’ve tried it years ago) impulsive anger and very very risk taking

Dbol euphoria energy bloated muscles great pumps meh strength ok mass

Anadrol: pretty pissy on drol super confident feel solid like being full on carbs and can move weights easier, blows me up intrmuscularly so look super full good mass

Winstrol good endurance took it for a week or so to try it but too fat to utilize it for looks

Sdrol: I wanna see the world burn, drys me out good strength fairly full look but there is better for me still haven’t seen the mass of 20 plus lbs everyone claims maybe I just don’t eat consistently on it

Dmz: favorite of mine it’s like anadrol and superdrol mixed, super full super solid feeling glycogen storage tops superdrol and anadrol
Amazing mass traps delts chest become huge side effect low if I can just control my doses and keep it at 45

Msten: hello acne and oily skin good strength bloated pissed and depressed like SD hair goes bye bye

M1t: depressed, bloated like **** but in a way that makes me look good except my face. Horny, body temp elevate, ran at end of cycle can’t comment on mass or strength really

Methyltrienolone: completely overrated a mg just isn’t big enough dose to utilize it

Uh what else I can’t remember I think that’s all of it

Except m1a. This mother fucker. I just bought some today. This stuff is like when rick and summer from rick and morty take steroids
Massive energy and aggression and almost euphoric like dbol but more aggressive
My strength has gone nuts mass I think a lot too it might be burning fat as well. I will need to experiment more with this one but it seems my number 1 compounds out of everything I’ve tried are literally msten dmz and M1a

Mk677: I dropped a college course due to panic attacks it was giving me. I really wish I could use it


If I could go back in time I’d never run tren. Every. Too androgenic, too many sides. I’m 100 percent convinced I would have never had delt or back hair growth or the acne problems I have today on a simple test cycle if I never ran tren or methyltrienolone. Do yourself a favor and leave those alone

It doesn’t even look good in my opinion tren the veiny red skin kinda flat look, super unhealthy

Imo the best look is anything not involving tren it’s not worth the health problems tren is simply a meme that blew up because everyone thinks it’s soooo strong but I’m pretty sure SD had it beat

The only thing I will run these days is low to moderate test deca is undecided msten depending on hair
Dmz m1a anadrol and that is IT
 

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Oh yeah, forgot about that one. Narcissism big time yup. There is a plus side to it, you kinda start building more self worth. Not talking about muscle gains due to cycle but the narcissism part is pointed in the direction of reminding you that you are a solid person, a force. If you know what I mean. And you kinda keep some of that after cycle.
Not only that, but i feel that my personality changed a little bit after the cycle. I am more of a loose cannon when it comes to certain thing, as if i have less insecurities.

But it is insane how insecurities and social anxiety simply vanish on cycle. I never became cocky, but actually felt fine surrounded by people whereas i had anxiety before cycle when it came to social events.


@lvft1213 panic attacks due to mk677?
You mean that feeling of overwhelming anxiety comes upon you, you start feeling like there is an imminent danger from within that cannot be explained and all of a sudden heartrate is 140 bpm.
Had that sh1t on masteron, but mk677 never gave me psychological sides except for loss of libido.

How the hell did you tolerate tren then?
 
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It’s amazing how much social anxiety I get after watching porn. And then three weeks without it I can’t keep my cocky ass arrogant stupid mouth shut
 

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Not only that, but i feel that my personality changed a little bit after the cycle. I am more of a loose cannon when it comes to certain thing, as if i have less insecurities.

But it is insane how insecurities and social anxiety simply vanish on cycle. I never became cocky, but actually felt fine surrounded by people whereas i had anxiety before cycle when it came to social events.


@lvft1213 panic attacks due to mk677?
You mean that feeling of overwhelming anxiety comes upon you, you start feeling like there is an imminent danger from within that cannot be explained and all of a sudden heartrate is 140 bpm.
Had that sh1t on masteron, but mk677 never gave me psychological sides except for loss of libido.

How the hell did you tolerate tren then?
Dude I’ve missed like two of your posts I swear it doesn’t notify me when u reply lol

Tren made me too confident to give a **** if I was anxious I was like whatever I’m anxious. Who cares. **** stuck with me too

But mk has a weird effect on sleep cycles and a specific study on the amygdala In rats and fear response ima bet it had something to do with that

Mk makes me paranoid and anxious sucks cuz the fullness on it is incredible
 

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Literally You think you can take on the world when you’re on tren and that’s what I loved most about it. I was just like I can **** any girl, I can fight anyone, I can out lift anyone I am god. (Being a bit exxargerative) <- not a word btw but yeah it just made me solid, aside from the impulsive anger

Also things that happened in my past like being cheated on etc I started to get real mad about again it’ll drag your past back into your life

Honestly doesn’t compare to M1a I feel. My bones are creaking and popping from strength increase I’m talking like over night literally there was no progression just 40 lb increase
Here I am limping in the gym with a fucked up right knee my elbows are popping my tendon is throbbing down my whole right arm and I haven’t taken a day off for about a month now.
I’ve been benching like every day I’m definitely over training and under recovering I’m even going like twice a day second time just fucking around doing **** I shouldn’t be doing. It’s retarded

This **** is nuts
 

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Not only that, but i feel that my personality changed a little bit after the cycle. I am more of a loose cannon when it comes to certain thing, as if i have less insecurities.

But it is insane how insecurities and social anxiety simply vanish on cycle. I never became cocky, but actually felt fine surrounded by people whereas i had anxiety before cycle when it came to social events.


@lvft1213 panic attacks due to mk677?
You mean that feeling of overwhelming anxiety comes upon you, you start feeling like there is an imminent danger from within that cannot be explained and all of a sudden heartrate is 140 bpm.
Had that sh1t on masteron, but mk677 never gave me psychological sides except for loss of libido.

How the hell did you tolerate tren then?
I can def relate to the MK 677 panic attacks.. the scary thing was I use to run it like all the time on and off and had no issues until the last time I tried it maybe a couple years ago now like 2017 I was on day 2 where I took 50mg.. 25 in the am.. and 25 later afternoon and then I’ll never forget that night around midnight I was on the couch and started to feel really hot, nervous and my heart beat.. that **** kept me up all night until the morning and I went to the doctors and get like a wreck.. I also had bumped my test dose to about maybe 600mg 2 weeks prior and that could have done something.. needless to say Since 2017 til now I only do TRT test 250mg at most maybe 300 and that is it.. I just always focus to train hard and frequent and eat plenty quality food.. i think these panic attacks wee a blessing in disguise because I legit was almost addicted to trying the next over the counter anabolic you can think of.. same with crazy preworkouts.. I think the panic attacks were an early sign to call it quits because who would have known what it could lead to.. it’s not worth it to try to be massive anymore especially when the Dallas mccarver death and rich piana death happened.. it really opened my eyes to there being more to life than this.. plus I also don’t like the feeling of constantly feeling amped up or on edge.. that’s what I like about a slightly higher TRT dose because you feel great and don’t feel ill or not well..
 

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