What makes a harder recovery cycle length or the roid

FitnessLuke

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So what makes a harder recovery of test levels in yalls experience, the potency of the steroid or the length of the steroid cycle.

I know there are other variables like age and genes, but besides those two factors
 
I'd say length if you don't factor anything else in.. Longer you are shut down the more your body adapt to it or something along those lines ?
 
I'd go with potency more so than length (assuming same ester for injectables). Tren ace is going to cause much more suppression than test prop.
 
Hmm two answers really. It seems like the first makes more sense. Longer cycles would cause the body to forget more of what baseline levels are. I know some steroids shut you down way faster though
 
FitnessLuke said:
Hmm two answers really. It seems like the first makes more sense. Longer cycles would cause the body to forget more of what baseline levels are. I know some steroids shut you down way faster though
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It's contingent on the steroid and, if applicable, ester involved. Testosterone is an easy PCT even if it's a 20 week cycle. 4-6 weeks of a bridge of orals, although much shorter, could require just as diligent of a PCT. I know for a fact it was easier to recover from a 14 week cycle of Test E than it was from a 3 week cycle of M1T. It's not black and white when it comes to recovery and AAS.
 
Rodja said:
It's contingent on the steroid and, if applicable, ester involved. Testosterone is an easy PCT even if it's a 20 week cycle. 4-6 weeks of a bridge of orals, although much shorter, could require just as diligent of a PCT. I know for a fact it was easier to recover from a 14 week cycle of Test E than it was from a 3 week cycle of M1T. It's not black and white when it comes to recovery and AAS.
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Wow and I thought test was one of the harder compounds to recover from.

Thats good to know. So 5-6 weeks of turinabol and 8 weeks of test e should be fairly easy to recover from..? Only bc tbol is way way lighter than m1t

Seems the high androgenic roids cause the hardest suppression. Correct me if im wrong
 
FitnessLuke said:
Wow and I thought test was one of the harder compounds to recover from. Thats good to know. So 5-6 weeks of turinabol and 8 weeks of test e should be fairly easy to recover from..? Only bc tbol is way way lighter than m1t Seems the high androgenic roids cause the hardest suppression. Correct me if im wrong
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8 weeks of enanthate is too short. I'd make it 10 minimum. Testosterone is one of the easier anabolics on the HPTA. It's hard to paint a broad brush when it comes to suppression and AAS, but it's generally the highly anabolic ones that cause the most suppression. It's possible for a compound to be highly anabolic and not androgenic (e.g. nandrolone).
 
Honestly I think the biggest thing that effects recovery is finding the right pct layout for YOU. Some people respond really well to clomid while others turn depressive. Some people do better with Nolva. Adding a test booster, DAA, prolactin control, etc.

From experience, I've found that taking Nolva works best for me, DAA makes me feel like crap and I have prolactin issues almost no matter what my cycle is. It's all personal.

Workouts and diet make a world of difference as well. Pct is trail and error not a science book.
 
I have taken short oral cycles and at other times ****ed around for up to a year on multiple injects/orals. At times when i have wanted to recover I have done so with lots of different pct's and then gone to the Dr's for bloods. Every time my test levels have come back within normal range. I say do what you want just make sure you do a Serm pct. From my experience I like Clomid and Aromasin.
 
Dam that makes me feel way safer about a 10 week test cycle. Especially bc I will have clomid, nolva, and small amount of hcg. Im guna use the nolva first for four weeks and if I still feel suppressed ill run clomid another four weeks.

Only thing is I have the order for my cycle basically ready, but now I am pretty sketched out about ordering gear online. If I cant order online id have to do an oral only cycle and Id almost rather not cycle at all in that case. Oral only sounds like a crappy way to go
 
There is no "such and such will shut you down harder than such and such", shut down is shutdown. When people say that something will shut you down harder, that just means it will shut you down faster is all. Given enough time however, all will shut down your natural T. The cycle length and length of shutdown is the biggest detriment to recovery, not so much the type of compound or how quickly aka "hard" it shuts you down.
 
anabolix said:
There is no "such and such will shut you down harder than such and such", shut down is shutdown. When people say that something will shut you down harder, that just means it will shut you down faster is all. Given enough time however, all will shut down your natural T. The cycle length and length of shutdown is the biggest detriment to recovery, not so much the type of compound or how quickly aka "hard" it shuts you down.
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This is not true. Production is still happening while using AAS, but it's a definitely suppressed and that is the keyword: suppressed. That is what needs to be used instead of shutdown as that implies some sort of on/off switch when it's really more of a dimmer switch scenario.
 
Rodja said:
This is not true. Production is still happening while using AAS, but it's a definitely suppressed and that is the keyword: suppressed. That is what needs to be used instead of shutdown as that implies some sort of on/off switch when it's really more of a dimmer switch scenario.
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What i said was true, but i agree suppression should be used instead. The lenght of suppression plays a key role in how well someone recovers. Studies show quick suppression with trest, however people seem to recover well. A more supressive compound doesn't necessarily mean a more difficult recovery, its more about the amount of time you are suppressed. At least thats the way i understand it.
 
anabolix said:
What i said was true, but i agree suppression should be used instead. The lenght of suppression plays a key role in how well someone recovers. Studies show quick suppression with trest, however people seem to recover well. A more supressive compound doesn't necessarily mean a more difficult recovery, its more about the amount of time you are suppressed. At least thats the way i understand it.
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The way you worded it makes it seem like there's a black and white line when it's very much a grey area. There's a variance of suppression and that's why you can't just say you're shutdown or not. A more suppressive compound and/or cycle will require a more aggressive or longer PCT. Tren is going to require more than test due to the extra suppression from tren.
 
its all about the potency of the hormone. length of the cycle really only impacts this conversation if we are looking at less than 4 week cycles. anything beyond that, you have given your body plenty of time to adjust to the exogenous hormones.
 
This sounds very grey areaish. Dose it have anything to do with keeping estrogen levels low or really like many people are saying each compound carries their own effects

Okay so trest for example is significantly stonger than test, but reports show it is easy to recover from?

Anyone know what dose would suffice as a test base? Like say 25mg transdermal
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
its all about the potency of the hormone. length of the cycle really only impacts this conversation if we are looking at less than 4 week cycles. anything beyond that, you have given your body plenty of time to adjust to the exogenous hormones.
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So then it's no harder to recover from a 36 month cycle than a six weaker? That has not been my experience. Certain compounds will suppress you faster, but imo length of suppression is a HUGE factor.
 
anabolix said:
So then it's no harder to recover from a 36 month cycle than a six weaker? That has not been my experience. Certain compounds will suppress you faster, but imo length of suppression is a HUGE factor.
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um no.. your missing the point. Im saying that if you runn past a 3 week cycle you are going to give the body enough time to suppress. after that the compound is going to dictate how bad you get suppressed. I am in no way comparing levels of shut down between a 36 month cycle and a 4 week cycle. imo after 4 weeks you need to consider how you will recover. it would be foolish to say recovering from 1dhea vs anadrol is harder if the cycle lengths are equal
btw if your running36 mo cycles I think its time for you to just go on trt bro. blast n cruise from there and don't worry about shut down.
 
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