what is the best supplement to take to bulk up?

mapexman said:
i have only been working out the past few months. well since highschool. i have never takn any kind of supplements other than protien. i know this is probably a stupid question to most of you but there is are so many different things out there.
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You would benefit from reading EasyEJL's fish oil thread- a trainer claimed to help a pro athlete bulk up about 30 pounds or so in a very short period of time, and it's also very affordable ($25 for 1000 caps, I'd suggest high doses.)

Definitely some kind of protein. Maybe ON's 100% Whey.

You could go for some bulk creatine mono. I wouldn't trust Ethyl Ester with all of the studies that have come out.

But, most importantly (and as mentioned before), eat your face off. Manimalia mentioned cottage cheese, a great protein and good fat source. Drink lots of milk and eat good meats like turkey! All kinds of fish are fantastic for you, especially tuna because of its convenience and it has virtually no fat and there's give or take 33g of protein in the cans in water. I've put on 15+ pounds by drinking more than a quart of milk/day, drinking 52g protein shakes (which I now add fiber to, tastes awful anyway), downing 5g creatine mono pre and post workout with some taurine, taking amino acid tabs, a multi, and I've recently started to megadose fish oil.

Get anabolic or die trying.
 
luclyluciano said:
It's 12 grams of fat to be exact. If you did any reading at all on proper nutrition, you'd know your diet must consist of Protein, Carbs and Good Fats. Muscle Milk contains those good fats as MCT (medium-chain tryglicerides) or "fast burning fats" which get burned as energy and heat. This is why my workouts are intense with tons of EXTRA ENERGY AND HUGE MUSCLE PUMPS EVERY TIME!!

I feel sorry for people that are so Brainwashed when they hear the word fats their IQ drops to the floor.

It's brainwashing like this that flew planes into the WTC.
Try it and prove me wrong, don't follow the WHEY protein Only sheep heard.
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Rofl. You just connected fats and 9/11. Id neg rep you but youve got bigger problems.
 
MrBrightside said:
I've put on 15+ pounds by drinking more than a quart of milk/day, drinking 52g protein shakes (which I now add fiber to, tastes awful anyway), downing 5g creatine mono pre and post workout with some taurine, taking amino acid tabs, a multi, and I've recently started to megadose fish oil.

Get anabolic or die trying.
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Dude. Did you have any carbs in that, at all?
 
Wow terrorism and Muscle Milk in the same thread. Personally i enjoy the taste of Muscle Milk, its okay as a protein powder...9/11 however leaves a bad taste in my mouth and should not be correlated to a protein product, brainwashing, and selling things. As for the orginal thread advice: You will be fine fella, take peoples advice here. Creatine and protein good, a multi wont hurt and by golly you will see results. Just have fun and stick to it. Good luck my amigo and welcome!
 
krazy said:
Rofl. You just connected fats and 9/11. Id neg rep you but youve got bigger problems.
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I connected being brainwashed into thinking whey is the only and best protein source out there when it really is only the fastest absorbed protein source and that all fats are bad for you when your diet should include a percentage of fat for it to be a complete & proper diet.
 
AM07 said:
If you're trying to bulk up, steroids.

If you're trying to cut, methamphetamine.
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just incase the OP doesn't get it, I believe this is a joke...or really bad advice :think:
 
Some things that YOU should use

1) Creatine monohydrate. Don't buy the expensive over-advertised cell tech creatine "delivery matrix omgwtf systems", just creatine monohydrate. Cheap, and has been reliably working for everyone that I know that has taken it before.

2) Gatorade powder. That is the POWDER not the already packaged drinks. The powder contains dextrose, which is what is utilized by most of these $40+ supplements to "help deliver creatine." Dextrose is the primary ingredient to help deliver creatine to cells to act as a recycler by giving up it's phosphate to convert ADP to ATP (cell energy).

3) Food

4) Sleep

5) Maybe a stimulant pre work out, such as caffiene. Depends on how you feel. I almost always take a pre workout stimulant, primarily caffeine.


Good luck on your journey man and enjoy!
 
Throughout the years, some studies have shown that MCT's can help in the process of excess calorie burning, weight loss. However, close to half of the calories in one's diet would have to be from the MCT's themselves. Therefore, consuming medium chain triglycerides in a regular diet may or may not be beneficial to weight loss; studies are still being conducted.[2]

2 ^ B. Martena, M. Pfeuffer, J. Schrezenmeir (2006). "Medium-chain triglycerides". International Dairy Journal 16 (11): 1374-1382. doi:10.1016/j.idairyj.2006.06.015.
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First of all, does everyone have to explain when it's a joke? If the guy can't figure that out he shouldn't even be asking about supps. Second of all Dorian Yates never took steroids, I mean c'mon. Yea I bet he just drank MM. Am I the only one that caught that.And as far as I know no one disputed the fact to use a mixture of proteins they just don't like MM. And I've heard numerous people say the same It's over hyped over priced B.S. Ur entitled to ur opinion just like everyone else.
 
ecu19 said:
Some things that YOU should use

1) Creatine monohydrate. Don't buy the expensive over-advertised cell tech creatine "delivery matrix omgwtf systems", just creatine monohydrate. Cheap, and has been reliably working for everyone that I know that has taken it before.

2) Gatorade powder. That is the POWDER not the already packaged drinks. The powder contains dextrose, which is what is utilized by most of these $40+ supplements to "help deliver creatine." Dextrose is the primary ingredient to help deliver creatine to cells to act as a recycler by giving up it's phosphate to convert ADP to ATP (cell energy).

3) Food

4) Sleep

5) Maybe a stimulant pre work out, such as caffiene. Depends on how you feel. I almost always take a pre workout stimulant, primarily caffeine.


Good luck on your journey man and enjoy!
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Caffeine + Taurine/Tyrosine on the pre-w/o stim.
 
goslamacamel said:
Caffeine + Taurine/Tyrosine on the pre-w/o stim.
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yep, you are correct. It should be used for pumping iron though, not necessarily needed for cardio though.

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luclyluciano said:
Just telling it like it is! 1st hand experience. PLUS there are plenty of research articles in MD and Flex magazine etc. confirming what I already have experienced 1st hand.

Scientists are reporting that the best results are a combination of Casein and Whey. The whey for immediate absorbtion and the Casein for slow release.

Manimalia...I'm sure you know your supposed to feed your muscles every 2-3 hours....of course food is the best way to do this, even better than your beloved over hyped whey!!!
Don't get me wrong, whey definitely has its place but so does casein and I found a combination of both like found in Muscle Milk is fantastic.

I don't see how so many of you say Muscle Milk is Garbage...did you have a bad experience or something. Did U get fat on it because your workouts are too lazy, slow and lacking intensity because you are overly dependant on Steroids?? I had a personal trainer about a year ago that was good friends with Dorian Yates and actually trained with him in the past. He never touched Steroids...so he said and was huge and he was very outspoken when pointing to the guys in the gym that were overly dependant on Roids. Their workouts were the laziest lowest intensity and had the worst form possible because their gains were were all Chemical!!! LOL!! I bet if you even tried MM...you probably are too lazy in the gym to get the benefits you should be getting!

I work out in a huge gym that is jammed with people many of which are Muscle heads and I can tell you I am one of the most intense there!!
I like to work out like Jay Cutler very intense, short rest periods and higher volume...so no, I am not a novice! LOL!

I don't know for sure what does it but my strength and intensity in the gym has gone thru the roof since using it and I'm using it all wrong...I DRINK IT DURING MY WORKOUT!!! LOL!! Of course its gone in the 1st 10 minutes.

My muscles are also pumped up to the maximum and on EVERY SINGLE WORKOUT!!!! I used to get stares in the gym because I was pretty big & cut up while wearing tank tops at the gym...now I wear loose short sleeved Nike T's and get the
same stares...I love it.

I weighed 185lbs before muscle milk...now I'm 198 in roughly 2 short months and I have never reached close to 200lbs. With Muscle Milk I surely will hit 200 lbs in the next few weeks.

You guys talk about increasing your strength thru anabolics...well I have accomplished this with out them.

Don't get me wrong...I just started my 1st cycle today of E-max and am excited about this but I love Muslce Milk.

I have triied lots of whey protein but Whey alone left me wondering what was so special about it????

I even would order my own whey protien for years from True Protein and experimented with creating my own concoctions there.

I am telling you the truth....I bet I can workout just as hard as you in the gym probably even alot harder & heavier and the biggest difference is I am never sore anymore 2 days later. I was always sore with whey...therefore poor recovery!! I have amazing recovery! Yeah MM is definitely garbabe... but you can stick to your brainwashing and overhyped whey protein alone & I will continue with my increadible workouts and gains with MM.

For your information...Muscle Milk has both Whey & Casein Plus good fats for energy and probably some other good things etc. All I know is it works amazing...so stop relying so much on roids and push yourself hard in the gym with shorter rest periods and give MM a try...It works and you won't lose your hair from too much Steroids!!! LOL!! Garbage My ass!
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Your handle should have been muscle milk, it would be very fitting for you
 
eat alot of lean protein and alot of carbs like pasta and oatmeal. take a CEE. im on primaforce CEE and have gained 6 pounds in three weeks. IMO, juice is only good if u have a balanced training program and diet and are knowledgeable about gym candy and everything else.
 
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