What is better for muscle pumps-Cialis or PES High Volume?

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Does Cialis far and away trump PES High Volume (arguably the best over the counter pump supplement for pumps) for muscle pump quality? Also, typically how long after the work out does the pump from Cialis work?
 
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Does Cialis far and away trump PES High Volume (arguably the best over the counter pump supplement for pumps) for muscle pump quality? Also, typically how long after the work out does the pump from Cialis work?
Cialis works better, but the pump does not really last much longer. If your really lean you will notice your pump longer, if your on a cycle you should keep a pump longer. But if your looking for that all day pumped look it's not gonna happen unless you got a lot of muscle and very low bodyfat and are on a cycle.
 

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Cialis works better, but the pump does not really last much longer. If your really lean you will notice your pump longer, if your on a cycle you should keep a pump longer. But if your looking for that all day pumped look it's not gonna happen unless you got a lot of muscle and very low bodyfat and are on a cycle.
I think I will give it a shot as it sounds like a win/win. Better pump and cheaper than what I am currently doing buying SMS Vaso 6 and High Volume since my insurance company will pay for most of the generic Cialis. Is there
any compound you know of capable of giving an “all day” pump excluding steroids for someone who is muscular, but not super shredded? I doubt it, but had to ask. 😁
 
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Agreed with the above. Don't think there's much that is going to keep you pumped all day long. I would recommend trying both for your self. PES high volume is an awesome non stim pre workout so it won't be a waste if you pick up it and Cialis.
 
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Low dose, like 5-7.5 mg per day or 15mg 3x a week.

I used 15mg mon wed Friday for the past 2 months for keeping bp low and a better pump in the gym. I don't notice a sexual benifit from it but I have no issues in that department so that might be why.
 

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Agreed with the above. Don't think there's much that is going to keep you pumped all day long. I would recommend trying both for your self. PES high volume is an awesome non stim pre workout so it won't be a waste if you pick up it and Cialis.
Yes, tried and love High Volume. This forum is so useful in information. I read on a Cialis thread that got me interested in it not to mix is with Nitrates found in pre-workouts as that
can be fatal. Just thankful I read that peace of information BEFORE deciding to try Cialis.
 

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Low dose, like 5-7.5 mg per day or 15mg 3x a week.

I used 15mg mon wed Friday for the past 2 months for keeping bp low and a better pump in the gym. I don't notice a sexual benifit from it but I have no issues in that department so that might be why.
How long before a workout do you dose it?
 
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Pumps for pen1s vs Or pumps for gym ?
 
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I dosed 7.5mg on workout days about an hour before. It's not something that hits you right away it slowly builds up and does give great pumps. Increases vascularity quite a bit after a week as well. For right before a workout I've heard Viagra on an empty stomach was better but never gave it a shot.
 
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I dosed 7.5mg on workout days about an hour before. It's not something that hits you right away it slowly builds up and does give great pumps. Increases vascularity quite a bit after a week as well. For right before a workout I've heard Viagra on an empty stomach was better but never gave it a shot.
Ya, if you take Viagra on a full stomach it won't work
 

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Is there
any compound you know of capable of giving an “all day” pump excluding steroids for someone who is muscular, but not super shredded? I doubt it, but had to ask. 😁
If only! Closest you’ll get to achieving that is taking low dose Cialis every day.
 

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Cialis, xgels, creatine, glycerol mono. Pumps all day. Also hydration.
 
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High volume then
Agreed. Like I mentioned above i think high volume will get the job done for the pumps that you are looking for.
 
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He's looking for a all day pump I thought, not going to happen
Agreed. Not going to happen all day. Lucky if you can hold a pump for a few hours post workout!
 

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Definitely is
How difficult is it do get Cialis without a prescription though. Going through my insurance is so complicated, them and my doctor don't make it easy to get a script.
 
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How difficult is it do get Cialis without a prescription though. Going through my insurance is so complicated, them and my doctor don't make it easy to get a script.
Quite easy. Premier research essentials and MAresearch both sell Cialis. I'm pretty sure I've heard ads on the radio now that are advertising selling that and Viagra without a prescription now too.
 
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How difficult is it do get Cialis without a prescription though. Going through my insurance is so complicated, them and my doctor don't make it easy to get a script.
I've used ma research Cialis. Gtg
 
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awesome thanks, never went research ways of Viagra or Cialis.
I like that it's liquid and you can play with the dossage. But twords the end of the bttl if you leave it sitting too long a white crust starts forming so you gotta move the liquid around in it daily once your down to a quarter bttl. Once the liquid runs dry I add a dropper of water and shake it till the white stuff dissolves and you get 1 last dose
 

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Got my trt dr. to prescribe me a 5mg generic Cialis a day. Gonna take my first dose tomorrow preworkout. About how long before the workout should I take it?
 

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When you first wakeup, 36 hour half life I believe.
 

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awesome thanks, never went research ways of Viagra or Cialis.
My test rat was at full power after ma research Cialis..bought it for bedroom..re ordered for all day pumps from gym..especially abs, legs and the main ve1gn
 

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