What is AAv2 ...

Stkol76

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Hi
Around the board there is a lot of talk about stavking Alphamime, Noco etc. with AAv2 ro get the Best Result when cutting fat, but what is AAv2, and are there different brands, and If so what are these? ..

I am training bodybuilding 4-5 times a week and my muscles grow quite Well, and I eat Healthy but still my fat percent dont seem to drop from 25-26 percent and my gold is to drop to between 13-15 percent fast, but it seems that no matter what I do it does not help, so I need the very Best and fastest fat burning Solution.
 
Adipose Annihilation Version 2, stopped being made several years ago and pretty much all remaining stock anywhere has been gone for well over a year. It was a combination of capsaicin, rauwolscine, gingko, evodiamine, garcinia, and fucoxanthin made by EBF. Too bad its gone, it was one of the best as far as I'm concerned. Owner of the company was a good guy too.
 
Hi
Around the board there is a lot of talk about stavking Alphamime, Noco etc. with AAv2 ro get the Best Result when cutting fat, but what is AAv2, and are there different brands, and If so what are these? ..

I am training bodybuilding 4-5 times a week and my muscles grow quite Well, and I eat Healthy but still my fat percent dont seem to drop from 25-26 percent and my gold is to drop to between 13-15 percent fast, but it seems that no matter what I do it does not help, so I need the very Best and fastest fat burning Solution.

Pretty simple really, consume less calories than your body burns every day and you will lose weight, the amount of extra calories a fat burner burns is negligible, going for a brisk 20 minute walk will probably burn more.
 
Adipose Annihilation Version 2, stopped being made several years ago and pretty much all remaining stock anywhere has been gone for well over a year. It was a combination of capsaicin, rauwolscine, gingko, evodiamine, garcinia, and fucoxanthin made by EBF. Too bad its gone, it was one of the best as far as I'm concerned. Owner of the company was a good guy too.

That makes sense then, why I can not find any product on the internet. Are there any alternatives that would be a good stack together with Alphamine?
 
Pretty simple really, consume less calories than your body burns every day and you will lose weight, the amount of extra calories a fat burner burns is negligible, going for a brisk 20 minute walk will probably burn more.

That is Unfortunately much easier Said than Done .. I am constantly Keeping my Daily calories 300 under what my body should consume to be weight stable, having one cheat Day pr. Week. I lost 60 kg in 9 months from sep 2015 to july 2016, and have gained more than 20 kg og muscles afterwards, but it seems that no matter what I do I Can not shred the last 11-13 percent of body fat .. Its like my body just keeps stable on the 25-26%
 
If you are not losing body fat then you are consuming too many calories, losing body fat when you are at 25% should not be too difficult, once you are approaching single digit then it will start to get difficult but not at 25% unless there is a medical issue in play.

How are you working out your maintenance calories?
 
Also why are you having a cheat day?

There are no medical l issues and my calorie intakte should according to MyFitnessPal be 2060 calories Per Day, but I Only consume around 1650 Per Day. The cheat day is to but chok the body and also to not become tired of the my diet.
 
There are no medical l issues and my calorie intakte should according to MyFitnessPal be 2060 calories Per Day, but I Only consume around 1650 Per Day. The cheat day is to but chok the body and also to not become tired of the my diet.

1650 a day and not losing, need a bit more info

Male or Female?
How much do you weigh?
How tall are you?
What is your macro breakdown?
 
1650 a day and not losing, need a bit more info

Male or Female?
How much do you weigh?
How tall are you?
What is your macro breakdown?

Male, according to Body Tracker meassured Yesterday, my weight is 102,8 kg, muscle mass 43,7 kg, height 184 cm .. how do I calculate Macro Breakdown?
 
To be honest, Yes I do, but I have not put in data for quite some time, since I am following the same diet (offcause variated), so have have not felt the need to log it.
 
I still use MFP daily and have done for about 5 years, still weigh my food as well (sad I know) I think you should start doing this to make sure you know exactly how many calories you are taking in as you should at your weight and height be losing weight on 1650 (body weight in lbs x7.5) I lose a lb a week at body weight x14
 
Ahhh .. I do not have a Calculation on that .. maybe I should look into that!!

And this is why you probably can’t lose that last bit bro. Macros are everything. Some people can’t lose weight in a deficit, and a lot of times it’s because either A) they think they are eating weigh less than they are; B) they are eating crap food; or C) Both!

You must get those macros into a favorable position to lose weight or you’re wasting your time.

And sorry to be a dick, but you have NO BUSINESS messing with weight loss supplements until you do figure out your macros.

Did I mention you need to figure out your macros?
 
And this is why you probably can’t lose that last bit bro. Macros are everything. Some people can’t lose weight in a deficit, and a lot of times it’s because either A) they think they are eating weigh less than they are; B) they are eating crap food; or C) Both!

You must get those macros into a favorable position to lose weight or you’re wasting your time.

And sorry to be a dick, but you have NO BUSINESS messing with weight loss supplements until you do figure out your macros.

Did I mention you need to figure out your macros?

Point fully taken .. thanks for kicking my balls
 
You are right, Yes I should begin to do that again .. new year, new habits

Hit up a macros calculator to hemp you figure everything out. They will have all the necessary steps to help you bit the perfect macros for your goal based off your bodyweight and TDEE. And then google “sample bodybuilding diet at 1600 calories” or whatever caloric goal you land at. Then figure out which one looks appealing and reasonable and stick with it.
 
Point fully taken .. thanks for kicking my balls

Not trying to kick your balls man... just point you in the right direction. Once you get a few things figured out, you’ll probably see good results pretty quickly without supps. And then eventually when you stall in progress, get feedback from folks here that in a similar boat and throw some supps in there to shake things up.

Personally, I’m thinking you will see great results once you get your macros figured out.
 
Adipose Annihilation Version 2, stopped being made several years ago and pretty much all remaining stock anywhere has been gone for well over a year. It was a combination of capsaicin, rauwolscine, gingko, evodiamine, garcinia, and fucoxanthin made by EBF. Too bad its gone, it was one of the best as far as I'm concerned. Owner of the company was a good guy too.

Thanks :)

Hopefully you will see this as a reformulation soon with a couple updates to the formula

It's been on the back burner but this year will bring new things I hope
 
That is Unfortunately much easier Said than Done .. I am constantly Keeping my Daily calories 300 under what my body should consume to be weight stable, having one cheat Day pr. Week. I lost 60 kg in 9 months from sep 2015 to july 2016, and have gained more than 20 kg og muscles afterwards, but it seems that no matter what I do I Can not shred the last 11-13 percent of body fat .. Its like my body just keeps stable on the 25-26%

A couple of things;

- If you are having hypercaloric days your average daily consumption has gone up e.g. if someone is eating 1500 calories daily but having 3000 calorie days their average isn't 1500 calories anymore.
- As you lose weight your caloric needs will decrease. You weigh less than you did before (a lighter you requires less calories for maintenance than a heavier you, all else being equal) and adaptive thermogenesis may decrease the requirement more than you realise.

If you aren't losing weight on X calories per week, X calories per week is no longer deficit calories for you. Adjust as necessary. :)
 
A couple of things;

- If you are having hypercaloric days your average daily consumption has gone up e.g. if someone is eating 1500 calories daily but having 3000 calorie days their average isn't 1500 calories anymore.
- As you lose weight your caloric needs will decrease. You weigh less than you did before (a lighter you requires less calories for maintenance than a heavier you, all else being equal) and adaptive thermogenesis may decrease the requirement more than you realise.

If you aren't losing weight on X calories per week, X calories per week is no longer deficit calories for you. Adjust as necessary. :)

This is well said and pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

If you eat 2000 calories a day for 6 days and then have a cheat on day 7, even if you keep it to 3,000 calories with the cheat for day 7, your daily average is 2,142/day. This means if you burn 2,300 calories/day then your 300 calorie deficit basically just got cut in half and it will take you twice as long to lose weight as you thought.

Also, a lot of people don't really think about it but as you lose weight, it takes less energy just to move around. This is part of the reason people who are very heavy lose weight faster than expected at first. You need to recalculate your BMR after you've lost a bunch of weight.
 
This is well said and pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

If you eat 2000 calories a day for 6 days and then have a cheat on day 7, even if you keep it to 3,000 calories with the cheat for day 7, your daily average is 2,142/day. This means if you burn 2,300 calories/day then your 300 calorie deficit basically just got cut in half and it will take you twice as long to lose weight as you thought.

Also, a lot of people don't really think about it but as you lose weight, it takes less energy just to move around. This is part of the reason people who are very heavy lose weight faster than expected at first. You need to recalculate your BMR after you've lost a bunch of weight.
This is not true, the day you eat the 3000 kcal your body will have the potential of burning way more through thermogenics than before, considering you were in a deficit. You will probably feel stronger the day after your higher kcal day, and a lot of the kcal will be used for muscle glycogen if you train hard and are in a deficit the other days.

The excess amount of kcal you get during the cheats can only help you to an extent though, lets say you eat 5k kcal one day, compared to if you had 20k kcal, there wont be a really big difference in thermogenics and so on. Hope this makes sense.

Also, drink a lot of water and get your daily vitamins in, and don't miss out on fats and fibers. One can go on a diet, cutting away too much fat, leading to hormonal surpression and potential to burning fat. I've heard one guy losing his testosterone production because of being on a very low fat diet. I myself am going for at least 50-60g of fats per day. Eggs, nuts, fish, are great options. Oatmeal provide a stable energy source with very good micronutrients. I try not to go crazy on my breakfast as this for me causes lethargy. A few hundred kcal for breakfast, getting in a fair amount of healthy fats, good carbs and some protein. Try get a smaller, carb-meal before your workout (with a lot of water drinking in between your breakfast, your pre-workout meal, and the meals in between if any.) The water drinking combined with this carb-source provides with good fuel during the workout, and a very satisfying pump!

Always try having calories left for before bed, without having to "starve" until this final meal. So don't save too many, but save a few hundred kcal for before going to sleep. Try getting in slow proteins, which will help you feel more fed during the mornings, and not wake up with cravings during night. And always start the day of by fueling the body with water, and don't wait too long before getting the breakfast in, so you don't get too much of an appetite.

And if you drink coffe, or take any fat burning supplement, I would suggest waiting a couple of hours before drinking it after waking up, not instantly. When we wake up, our body starts a natural process getting us up and going. Feeling more energized during lunch or dinner compared to just when you wake up in the mornings? That's because of our bodies ways of getting us up and going. If we drink coffe for instance during this process, we won't get the full benefit of neither the coffe or the way our bodies naturally handles it. I hope this makes sense. Everything is about longgevity, so take things step by step, make all the things build up into a lifestyle. Don't see this cut as work or tough times. This will just lead to nothing lasting when you finish this race. Try making this 100m sprint, a beginning to a marathon! :)
 
This is not true, the day you eat the 3000 kcal your body will have the potential of burning way more through thermogenics than before, considering you were in a deficit. You will probably feel stronger the day after your higher kcal day, and a lot of the kcal will be used for muscle glycogen if you train hard and are in a deficit the other days.

The excess amount of kcal you get during the cheats can only help you to an extent though, lets say you eat 5k kcal one day, compared to if you had 20k kcal, there wont be a really big difference in thermogenics and so on. Hope this makes sense.

Also, drink a lot of water and get your daily vitamins in, and don't miss out on fats and fibers. One can go on a diet, cutting away too much fat, leading to hormonal surpression and potential to burning fat. I've heard one guy losing his testosterone production because of being on a very low fat diet. I myself am going for at least 50-60g of fats per day. Eggs, nuts, fish, are great options. Oatmeal provide a stable energy source with very good micronutrients. I try not to go crazy on my breakfast as this for me causes lethargy. A few hundred kcal for breakfast, getting in a fair amount of healthy fats, good carbs and some protein. Try get a smaller, carb-meal before your workout (with a lot of water drinking in between your breakfast, your pre-workout meal, and the meals in between if any.) The water drinking combined with this carb-source provides with good fuel during the workout, and a very satisfying pump!

Always try having calories left for before bed, without having to "starve" until this final meal. So don't save too many, but save a few hundred kcal for before going to sleep. Try getting in slow proteins, which will help you feel more fed during the mornings, and not wake up with cravings during night. And always start the day of by fueling the body with water, and don't wait too long before getting the breakfast in, so you don't get too much of an appetite.

And if you drink coffe, or take any fat burning supplement, I would suggest waiting a couple of hours before drinking it after waking up, not instantly. When we wake up, our body starts a natural process getting us up and going. Feeling more energized during lunch or dinner compared to just when you wake up in the mornings? That's because of our bodies ways of getting us up and going. If we drink coffe for instance during this process, we won't get the full benefit of neither the coffe or the way our bodies naturally handles it. I hope this makes sense. Everything is about longgevity, so take things step by step, make all the things build up into a lifestyle. Don't see this cut as work or tough times. This will just lead to nothing lasting when you finish this race. Try making this 100m sprint, a beginning to a marathon! :)
The Calories don't just disappear, and so all must be accounted for.

BDCC is absolutely correct. There is no protocol that can defy the law of thermogenesis, nor can you guarantee that any additional Calories will just be stored as glycogen as opposed to fat.
 
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