What is a good testosterone stack?

Jeepguy said:
About to place my order on NP

Mass 550 4c/day 2 in morning 2 at night with meals.
X gels 4c/day 2 in the morning and 2 at night except on workout days ill take 4c before training.
Was thinking about throwing in som GMS 1 scoop before training with my preworkout.
And some LCLT.

Do you think the GMS and LCLT are not needed and i should just role with the mass 550 and x gels?
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They will help enhance your Ara run by making the Ara more available to where you want it to go but if you're on a budget then just grab the mass 550 and xgels
 
I may end up doing a log once it comes in im looking forward as to what it can do for me.

My current stats
6'2"
267lbs around 12-14% bodyfat

Best lifts 405lb bench
470lb squat
550+ dead lift

Main sources of protein are chicken, turkey, salmon, tuna and some steak from time to time.
Carbs are 4oz of brown rice, sweet potatoe, oatmeal etc.
I eat my green veggies also.

Normally eat 5-6 times a day with 9oz of protein in each meal.

Monday-Chest
Tuesday-back
Wed-shoulders
Thrus-Legs
Fri-arm
Sat-maybe some cardio
Sun-Rest

I average about 4-30min cardio sessions a week.
 
MultiVitamin said:
To avoid it from being stored where it shouldn't (you want it to be stored into skeletal muscle tissue)

The reason why it's suggested pre-wo & fasted
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Plus it lasts wayyyyyyyy longer that way. :D

The studies were ran for 50 days. On the forums, we've seen users run it for 50 workou days. In my opinion, it should be a staple for everyone. Run a bottle or two of xgels/x-factor then take 3-4 weeks off and resume the cycle.

Working out reduces endogenous ara thus supplementation is beneficial. And if you're on a strenuous lifting program, you definitely need ara in your arsenal.
 
Jeepguy said:
Cool x gels on workout days only. Thanks planning on running everything for about 8 weeks.
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Assuming you work out at least 3-4 days a week, for x-gel dosing. Most people do, but...
 
ddfox said:
Running AlphaMax now (4 wks)... Got a free bottle of APE to try next. Surprised I haven't heard APE mentioned yet. Anybody try it?
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Planning on starting a 8 week AlphaMax in about a week, looking forward to it. Profile looks great and reviews have been solid.
 
jjblacksheep said:
Planning on starting a 8 week AlphaMax in about a week, looking forward to it. Profile looks great and reviews have been solid.
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I probably should run it for 8 weeks but I got a free bottle of APE & a 10 day trial of Nolvadren that I think I'll try after the 4 wks of AlphaMax.
 
If I had a bottle I'd likely do the same Hana. I havent had the best luck with natty boosters but I feel good about this one. A little libido boost would be nice as well. Good luck and post a little review if you can.
 
Jeepguy said:
I may end up doing a log once it comes in im looking forward as to what it can do for me.

My current stats
6'2"
267lbs around 12-14% bodyfat

Best lifts 405lb bench
470lb squat
550+ dead lift

Main sources of protein are chicken, turkey, salmon, tuna and some steak from time to time.
Carbs are 4oz of brown rice, sweet potatoe, oatmeal etc.
I eat my green veggies also.

Normally eat 5-6 times a day with 9oz of protein in each meal.

Monday-Chest
Tuesday-back
Wed-shoulders
Thrus-Legs
Fri-arm
Sat-maybe some cardio
Sun-Rest

I average about 4-30min cardio sessions a week.
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I'll follow along as well just shoot me the link.

Beta testers are extremely pleased and only a week in.

Reporting increased appetite, elevated mood, increase in strength, vascularity and noticeable leaning effects. Think you have a winner.
 
Montego1 said:
I'll follow along as well just shoot me the link.

Beta testers are extremely pleased and only a week in.

Reporting increased appetite, elevated mood, increase in strength, vascularity and noticeable leaning effects. Think you have a winner.
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don't forget about the increased semen volume lol
(hey I'm just passing along unbiased and unsponsored feedback from a consumer) :dunno:
 
jjblacksheep said:
Planning on starting a 8 week AlphaMax in about a week, looking forward to it. Profile looks great and reviews have been solid.
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Yea people are loving it! It really is one of the most complete testosterone boosters on the market. Incredibly hard to beat for the price!

Keep us updated on how it goes!
 
This is an AWESOME thread!! So much good information & recommendations here...almost makes your head spin though!! Thanks to all that contributed!!!
 
Jeepguy said:
ArA your referring to the xgels? Why shouldn't I take them on my days off?
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Take all xgels pre workout. Dont split the dose. Visit my Arachidonic Help Thread for all the info you need
 
Jiigzz said:
Take all xgels pre workout. Dont split the dose. Visit my Arachidonic Help Thread for all the info you need
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Have a quick question.

How should I stack my lclt and gms with the x gells?

Can I take 4 caps of x gels stacked with 3.3 grams of gms, 1-2 grams of lclt and my c4 preworkout drink altogether? And then just run the mass 550 in the morning and at night with food.
 
Jeepguy said:
Have a quick question. How should I stack my lclt and gms with the x gells? Can I take 4 caps of x gels stacked with 3.3 grams of gms, 1-2 grams of lclt and my c4 preworkout drink altogether? And then just run the mass 550 in the morning and at night with food.
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Yes.
 
Got my mass 550, x gels and gms in today. Lclt is supposed to be here Tuesday is it going to hurt anything to go ahead and start the stack without it? Planning on hitting arms in the morning.
 
No. Start now if you want.
 
Question about consuming fat while taking ara (x gels). I dropped fish oil I normally take in the mornings I mostly workout at night will it hurt anything to eat fish as a post workout meal? Or should I avoid it all together?
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Cistanche Deserticola is rapidly gaining attention throughout the world for its potential ability to improve performance, enhance muscular growth and recovery, and positively modulate various hormones. This plant, a valuable component of traditional Chinese medicine, possesses several unique compounds called “Phenylethanoids” that have been used for centuries for improving the body’s systems. Where exercise performance is concerned, Cistanche Deserticola extract has been shown in the murine model to increase time to exhaustion (increased endurance), reduce CK, LDH, and lactic acid levels (improved recovery and reduced soreness), and improve energy storage (increased strength production)1,2. On a microscopic level, the muscle cell stores more glycogen after exercise, meaning a quicker time to recovery and preserved strength for the next exercise session2. The muscle cells also showed growth, in both size and number, of mitochondria2. Mitochondria are the fuel generators of the cell, using up substrates like fat to produce energy. The net result is more efficient energy consumption, which may lead to improved fat loss and strength output simultaneously. It goes without saying that the possibility of improved muscle resilience, size, strength, recovery, and endurance would be beneficial to any serious bodybuilder or athlete. In terms of hormonal modulation, Cistanche Deserticola is an exceptionally powerful androgen found in nature. In a study done in male mice, C. Deserticola acted as an exogenous form of testosterone, mimicking testosterone’s effects in the body and even improving fertility3. Finally, a brand new 2014 study looked into C. Deserticola’s effect on mammalian lifespan, and it was found that C. Deserticola was a potent life-extending plant, acting by reversing the gradual decline in immune function that accompanies aging4. It also acts as an anti-aging compound through various other mechanisms, as quoted by the authors of another study: “Cistanche deserticola can enhance the ability of learning, memorizing, anti-oxidation, and improve immune function5.” By improving the efficiency with which the body restores itself, C. Deserticola may improve long-term fatigue and physical damage associated with overtraining. Couple this with its unique abilities as a phytoandrogen and muscle performance enhancer and you have an athlete’s dream where natural products are concerned. CistaMax™ by Analyzed Supplements offers Cistanche Deserticola via an extraction process that confers the bioactive ingredients to the user, amplifying the effects mentioned above. References [*]Cai, R. L., et al. "Antifatigue Activity of Phenylethanoid-rich Extract from Cistanche Deserticola." Phytother Res 24.2 (2010): n. pag. Web. [*]Han, L. C., and J. F. Hou. "Effects of Cistanche Deserticola Y.C. Ma on Serum Creatine Kinase and Ultrastructures of Skeletal Muscles in Mice." Zhongguo Zhong Yao Za Zhi 18.12 (1993): 743-45. Web. [*]Gu, Li, Wen-Ting Xiong, Chao Wang, Hong-Xia Sun, Guo-Fu Li, and Xin Liu. "Cistanche Deserticola Decoction Alleviates the Testicular Toxicity Induced by Hydroxyurea in Male Mice." Asian Journal of Andrology 15.6 (2013): 838-40. Web. [*]Zhang, Ke, Xu Ma, Wenjun He, Haixia Li, Shuyan Han, Yong Jiang, Hounan Wu, Li Han, Tomohiro Ohno, Nobuo Uotsu, Kohji Yamaguchi, Zhizhong Ma, and Pengfei Tu. "Extracts of Cistanche Deserticola Can Antagonize Immunosenescence and Extend Life Span in Senescence-Accelerated Mouse Prone 8 (SAM-P8) Mice." Evidence-Based Complementary and Alternative Medicine 2014 (2014): 1-14. Print. [*]Xuan, G. D., and C. Q. Liu. "Research on the Effect of Phenylethanoid Glycosides (PEG) of the Cistanche Deserticola on Anti-aging in Aged Mice Induced by D-galactose." Zhong Yao Cai 31.9 (2008): 1385-388. Web. - See more at: Invalid Link Removed
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Great post Coop! Thanks for the info on Cistamax. It answered some of my questions.
 
One option that never got as much love as I wouldve expected is USP Test Powder, phenomenal product.
 
SwolenONE said:
One option that never got as much love as I wouldve expected is USP Test Powder, phenomenal product.
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Is it any good? I keep putting it in my shopping cart then take it back out...I always see mixed reviews but you know how those things are. I would like to hear from someone who actually used it & used it right...
 
mikespe said:
Is it any good? I keep putting it in my shopping cart then take it back out...I always see mixed reviews but you know how those things are. I would like to hear from someone who actually used it & used it right...
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I'd just get the ingredients in bulk. And switch out the LCLT for ALCAR.
 
Compared to real test and dbol, you wont even know you're on anything. It might help the baby making process though... Lol
 
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