. You want a DHT based addition. Ment can get pretty wet. I do not think in this application epiandro would do well. I have used epistane with ment before and had good results but some people dislike epistane.
See for me, ment outshines it in aggression and strength. Regardless of dose. I would use it to dry up a bit if that’s all I was looking for but I personally don’t find it enough on ment. Any other time, hell yeah
Have you used it? I found it to be extremely overrated and underwhelming
Yes I absolutely loved it. One of my all time favorites actually. What brand and dose did you use?
I use the original the very first one that ever came out I can't think of what the brand was Patrick Arnold made it
Msten was really harsh for me as well, bp through the roof and piss darker than even 22mg of M1T.
Depends on what dose you were hitting. I run 150mgs when I do so that’s 6 caps a day and for me it’s like winstrol but makes me feel really good too.
The dose didn't matter for me, I went up to three or four times the label doses. Like everything else I do I start with the lowest dose possible and I work my way up to find the upper ceiling but with the one I just kept going up and never notice anything.
I would be interested because I loved it and many others although I won’t claim some of the weight gain that others got from it.
It was but I haven’t a clue what dose it was. I know the CEL one was 25mgs as are most clones
Test,mast,var,winny,epistane,halodrol, triumphalis, transdermal dhb.
Holy flock; 40mg for 40 days would probably kill me.
yeah funny how everybody is so different. Superdrol I don't go over 20mgs. M1t maxed out at 15mgs and seen no more gains. So I stuck to those doses. Msten 40 gives me no problem and works way better then 20mgs. Trest I can't run above 5mgs a day without raloxefine. Lol. Luckily even at 5mgs a day it gives me very noticeable gains. I see on other boards some guys ran it all th way up to 100mgs a day. Ha probably not enough ralox on the planet to prevent gyno for me on that dose. I can also run test at a gram a week with minimal ai no problem.
I get super bad estrogen sides and super gyno prone but there has never been a methyl that my body couldn’t handle. M1T was smooth sailing even though people say it makes them feel like crap.
Yep you are correct, I was thinking about another compound. But I also used @SSJ4GOD cel deplex what looks to have been 12 years ago, damn I'm getting old lol. Cycle was 6 weeks long while on 450mg test e. I added the one the last 6 weeks and there's not much to in my notes on positive thoughts on the one.
I'm on day 5 of it right now (Brawn The One), not much to report yet. I'm doing 75 mg, looking to up to 100 mg. It's a part of a cutting stack, so those things mentioned in your post above are pretty much the things I'm looking for with it. We'll see.
I was the same way with Hdrol…..always responded well. Really almost as good as Tbol for me.
Watch out ladies, no female would be safe.
No men or farm animals eitherWatch out ladies, no female would be safe.
I actually liked hdrol better then tbol, given I had do use double the dose of tbol so my opinion might be skewed.
The D-Drol is supposedly pretty much exactly what the old Ph/designer was called Pheraplex you can find a lot on Phera here. I’m gunna grab some Ddrol/phera
Noooo I’ve used them both and they’re polar opposites. The extra methylation of D-Drol completely changes the practical effects, and this happens basically any time you change the chemical structure. Like comparing Tren to Mtren, or Masteron to Superdrol. Night and day differences.
ok good to know how did you like the d-drol compared to phera? I thought about trying it but I got a bottle of a old ds ph that has some ment-20mg epi-15mg and hdrol-50mgs I’ve heard ment/trest oral is very short life and would need a lot more mg and bottles of it to even have a good cycle with frequent dosing. Could just be an epi-hdrol cycle take it pre-workout for the ment that or toss it in the trash not sure.
That will be a good 4 weeks, using 30mg epi and 100 Hdrol. Plus that ment may flash in and out, but it’s going to contribute a lot of methyl estrogen that will hang around and build up - it will help you retain more water & counterbalance how dry Epistane can be, keeping joints better and contributing anabolism as well as more strength (lifting bigger weights overall means more muscle too).
For me Phera is like SD meets dbol. Maybe not for strength gains but in cosmetic appearance and weight gained. Definitely not a good idea if your trying to maintain or cut weight
Awesome I’m on Hrt Test E but I’ve heard that mentabolan can aromatize a lot for some people and increase prolactin quite a bit. It’s the 7-alpha-methyl-estra 4 ene-3,17-dione mentabolan so a Dione of a 19-nor right? I got anastrozole that comes with my test there but should I grab anything for prolactin, basics for on cycle support Milk Thistle, NAC, Fish oil for joints and hawthorn berry for Bp ? I haven’t done any PHs or designers in awhile last one was years back a SD/Epi stack which was ok just Epi was under dosed and SD was over dosed like 1cap had 20mg of SD 10mg Epi did not want to be taking 40mgs of SD I had good gains with 30mg of SD alone from primadrol preformaces liquid version but the back pumps and blood pressure got rough hawthorn berry helped but I had some nose bleeds with it and back in the day ran the old Xtren from CEL and a few more. I’ve wanted to run Epi for awhile so I’m hoping this will be a good one small amount of ment but make it more a epi hdrol along side my test for a recomp. Thanks for your input another thing about epi dosage I thought 30mg sounded good but I have read some logs of 45mg and have a buddy who ran epi/havoc at 60mgs(I didn’t think he needed that high of a dose) he definitely achieved the look he wanted while on a cut leaner lower bf while gaining some weight but I assume that anything over 30 would start to get really dry on the joints same with hdrol over 100mg?
Okay so no PCT necessary, but I would still get some Tamoxifen or Raloxifene from MA Research (discount code SMONT there I believe) in case the ment aggravates gyno. AIs like Anastrazole don’t help that much with ment gyno as directly blocking the estrogen receptor selectively at the breast.
Will do thank you for all the information and help. I usually do use Smont but I might hold off and see if Mike does a sale or discount for the Holidays. Been wanting to try some of his peptides from how much I enjoy the somatozine on Masupps. Happy Holidays!
I’ve got 2 tubes of old school OL dermatrest and trying to find the best options run w it. I know it’s not the best option but I don’t want to just toss it. I do have some DMZ and epi as well.
I think you answered your conundrum in the same post. Not sure why you don’t think stacking those wouldn’t be great potential for growth.
I guess you’re right. I’m just trying to make the most of the dermatrest. With its short half life, that and epi wound make a pretty good PWO
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