10mg daily works so far for me; 5 in the am, and 5 at night. Sides are noticable, but I'll deal with it because I want to see the gains. Last cycle was good, but I didn't track results. Back tightness, (minimal) lethargy, weird appetite pattterns. I wouldn't go higher, and I could probably stick to 5 a day. In fact, if sides persist annoyingly, I'll drop it to 5/day in the 2nd week. I'm at the end of week 1, and I'm running 1T and 4AD t/d as well. I'm gonna run 4 weeks of M4OHN following the 2 weeks of M1T, and so far I dig the cycle.