what does all natural mean?

This is what I think of as natural.......

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No hormones/AAS injested/injected. No tampering with genetics (refer back in 50 years). No cell-tech.
 
bigpoppapump2 said:
IMO all natural is when you are off cycle
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The second I end my cycle of Furaz, Halo, and 11-OXO... I will brag about my 'all naturalness'. I think that would be kinda lame IMHO.

Being off cycle just means that you're not currently using gear.

There should be a significant amount of time after one is done juicin' that they should have the privy of being all-natural.
 
what the people who dont use any supps, like protein powder and creatine...

just like how there are veggies that dont eat read meat and then there are veggies who dont eat any meat
 
Brolic said:
what the people who dont use any supps, like protein powder and creatine...

just like how there are veggies that dont eat read meat and then there are veggies who dont eat any meat
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Has nothing to do with naturalness, just has to do with making dumb decisions on what you exclude from your diet.

The creatine and protein powder are completely natural, they're just concentrated extracts of things found in nature. That's comparable to eating the apple off a tree instead of the entire tree, and the "natural" option in that situation would be eating the entire tree.
 
While it's nice to be able to say you're 'all natural', there wouldn't be any feeling of pride attached to the statement if people didn't think less of others who are using steroids. It's like saying you're proud that you chose not to make a calculated decision to responsibly use an undeniably helpful supplement. I don't see the point, as the decision shouldn't have any sort of stigma attatched to it. Unless you are using them as a professional in a sport where it is not allowed and are therefore cheating, what wrong have you commited? Even then, in sports slike body building where you have to go on cycle to even be a contender for major titles, it's an individual's sport where your decisions affect no one but you, so, should you get 'caught' using, there are no team mates relying you, and your decision isn't going to come at cost to anyone but yourself. 'All natural' is just one of those self righteous labels people use to sell themselves to others, and it's unnecesary if you're secure in yourself and taking full responsibility for your choices.
 
as forest gump might say "natural is as natural does"

i think that the ultimate definition of one being natural would mean one that consumes only nature's natural products, protein from milk, eggs, meat and fish etc, carbs from oates, patatoes, rice etc, vitamins and minerals from vegetables, creatine would come only from natural sources such as red meat.

everything else is subjective IMHO and that there are many "degrees" of naturalness as there is with vegetarianism.
 
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