What do you all think would be good PCT for High Tech 1 testosterone 8 week cycle.

JOERAMHIT24

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After a layoff and prohormones from '2010, starting 1 testosterone and then a stack of 1 test with something else. Any recommendations. As far as PCT should I still go real serm PCT and real AI during cycle?? Thanks yall
 
their 1-t is 1-dhea and that does not convert to estrogen, you def do not want to take an AI with that - as a matter of fact, you'll want to run some sort of base to combat some of the sides - 1-dhea can make you feel pretty sh!tty.

I would recommend running Dermacrine at the very least through this. If you really want to kick ass, you could run Alpha Four

by itself, 1-dhea will likely cause extreme lethargy, kill your sex drive, etc...it has no conversion to estrogen or DHT.

For PCT, I would recommend a SERM - I like Clomid, with Sustain Alpha

Dermacrine is going to really help by providing some necessary estrogen conversion (estrogen is a necessary thing), and also works to mitigate lethargy and improve mood - it's also going to help with libido. This product has been tried and true for well over a decade - very popular to run alongside PHs

Alpha Four is fricken amazing - great for energy, libido, adding some synergistic mass and can also help with leaning. it does cost a bit more, but you do get what you pay for on this one.

Sustain Alpha is going to really help with libido, mood, and to keep estrogen under control - particularly while running clomid (works as a great AI).
 
Stay away from underdosed overpriced hi tech garbage.
If I were you, I would run Alpha 4 and Icon 1.
PCT as per the above post.
 
delsolrob said:
their 1-t is 1-dhea and that does not convert to estrogen, you def do not want to take an AI with that - as a matter of fact, you'll want to run some sort of base to combat some of the sides - 1-dhea can make you feel pretty sh!tty.

I would recommend running Dermacrine at the very least through this. If you really want to kick ass, you could run Alpha Four

by itself, 1-dhea will likely cause extreme lethargy, kill your sex drive, etc...it has no conversion to estrogen or DHT.

For PCT, I would recommend a SERM - I like Clomid, with Sustain Alpha

Dermacrine is going to really help by providing some necessary estrogen conversion (estrogen is a necessary thing), and also works to mitigate lethargy and improve mood - it's also going to help with libido. This product has been tried and true for well over a decade - very popular to run alongside PHs

Alpha Four is fricken amazing - great for energy, libido, adding some synergistic mass and can also help with leaning. it does cost a bit more, but you do get what you pay for on this one.

Sustain Alpha is going to really help with libido, mood, and to keep estrogen under control - particularly while running clomid (works as a great AI).
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So adding Dermacrine perhaps, still no AI with 1 test and Dermacrine? In the past, as soon as I ran a PH cycle I had to add an AI the second or 3rd day. I'm a check out all these products
 
No, dermacrine has an AI included in (7,8 Benzoflavone) it to help manage some of the conversion of DHEA to estrogen, but adding an AI to a cycle with no estrogen conversion is just going to make the sides worse.

An AI is only really helpful when running really wet compounds with high estrogen conversion - like Trest would require a pretty potent AI at more than low doses. there are very few compounds (off the shelf) out there now that require an AI on cycle.

The androsterone in alpha four helps keep the gains dry while also allowing for some necessary estrogen conversion...A4 is a totally feel good product.
 
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delsolrob said:
No, dermacrine has an AI included in (7,8 Benzoflavone) it to help manage some of the conversion of DHEA to estrogen, but adding an AI to a cycle with no estrogen conversion is just going to make the sides worse.

An AI is only really helpful when running really wet compounds with high estrogen conversion - like Trest would require a pretty potent AI at more than low doses. there are very few compounds (off the shelf) out there now that require an AI on cycle.

The androsterone in alpha four helps keep the gains dry while also allowing for some necessary estrogen conversion...A4 is a totally feel good product.
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Took a glance, I wish the products had more info on their site about the ingredients.
 
JOERAMHIT24 said:
Took a glance, I wish the products had more info on their site about the ingredients.
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This is a great place to get information and any questions you have answered. Frankly, the more information on the product pages, the less likely we are to be able to keep offering products and the more likely we are to lose out credit card processor.

Also, you should know what you're taking - if you don't understand the compounds then you should likely be doing more research on them before running them. Case in point, thinking you should run an AI with 1-DHEA (The 1-T product you were originally asking about). Was there anything helpful on the writeup on 1-T that helped guide you?

Wealth of knowledge here - use it, ask questions, etc...

here's a great link that gives some solid information on most of the available DHEA metabolites
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delsolrob said:
This is a great place to get information and any questions you have answered. Frankly, the more information on the product pages, the less likely we are to be able to keep offering products and the more likely we are to lose out credit card processor.

Also, you should know what you're taking - if you don't understand the compounds then you should likely be doing more research on them before running them. Case in point, thinking you should run an AI with 1-DHEA (The 1-T product you were originally asking about). Was there anything helpful on the writeup on 1-T that helped guide you?

Wealth of knowledge here - use it, ask questions, etc...

here's a great link that gives some solid information on most of the available DHEA metabolites
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Thank you!! You're right I have more homework to do before jumping something again.
 
botk1161 said:
Stay away from underdosed overpriced hi tech garbage.
If I were you, I would run Alpha 4 and Icon 1.
PCT as per the above post.
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Would you suggest 2 bottles of each here, application per container is 28. For an 8 week cycle? So thinking of getting Alpha Four, Icon One and PCT Sustain Alpha and Nolvadex.
 
Dammit I just missed a sale on IF tried to buy the sale stack 2 black series get sustain alpha free and could've should've would've had 2 bottles of each for $270 and came in too late lmao DAMN!!!
 
I've been looking at the cycle yall recommended, spoke to one of our Docs I work with and he also has done a few cycles. Recommended sto use anastrozole .5mg twice a week as soon as I start my cycle and through my PCT all the way then PCT with Nolva 4 weeks at 40/40/20/20 and the Ana at .5 twice a week with the addition of some Tonkai Ali, Fadogia, Tribulus and DAA. I'm still doing my homework but getting feedback as well before I begin, specially since I do have gyno from old superdrol, Trenadeol and Halodrol cycles from the early 2000s proHs
 
Alpha Four
Iconic One
anastrozole at .5 once or twice a week depending if itchy nips come up
8 weeks

PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Anastrozole .5 twice a week (monday then friday)
Sustain Alpha
(no tonkai or fadogia etc)

Ill just leave this up here.....
 
I run enclomophine 12.5 mg everyday with Sustain Alpha not as a PCT but as like a long term safer run per say. I ran alot of andros and honestly enclo with sustain alpha i get a good pump and look and its like a long term PCT which i dont have to worry about coming off and being tanked. Worst case I stop and go back to baseline, I think sustain helps manage any e2 sides enclo long term may have. I been on it a few months and no issues. I also added 7keto by iron legion and Neuro AET to this mix . great products. Looking at 6 months on then maybe 2 months off run dermacrine and or invictus solo with iconogen then back on enclo 6 months
 
Haterank74 said:
I run enclomophine 12.5 mg everyday with Sustain Alpha not as a PCT but as like a long term safer run per say. I ran alot of andros and honestly enclo with sustain alpha i get a good pump and look and its like a long term PCT which i dont have to worry about coming off and being tanked. Worst case I stop and go back to baseline, I think sustain helps manage any e2 sides enclo long term may have. I been on it a few months and no issues. I also added 7keto by iron legion and Neuro AET to this mix . great products. Looking at 6 months on then maybe 2 months off run dermacrine and or invictus solo with iconogen then back on enclo 6 months
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I actually saved those 1 and 4 andro bottles for later, I am on AC262 10mg and Enclomiphene 12.5. AC262 is workout days (4) and Enclomiphene every day. Week 4 and I am harder, fuller and have gained about 5 lbs so far. Feel good, just had some itchy nips and based on what we have here there's no need for an AI, plus Enclo would not allow that. So popped I'm some Prami 5mg and killed that.
 
JOERAMHIT24 said:
I actually saved those 1 and 4 andro bottles for later, I am on AC262 10mg and Enclomiphene 12.5. AC262 is workout days (4) and Enclomiphene every day. Week 4 and I am harder, fuller and have gained about 5 lbs so far. Feel good, just had some itchy nips and based on what we have here there's no need for an AI, plus Enclo would not allow that. So popped I'm some Prami 5mg and killed that.
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NIce I was curious about that ac262
I picked up some 11 keto topical to run for 6 weeks at 200mg a day it’s a very light compound will stack it with 7 keto , enclo and sustain looking for a slight recomp

Your PCT should be easy since u used Enclo like a sorta test base , I’d continue 12.5 then a per taper to 6.25 also add in whatever natural test booster u used and liked before maybe something for cortisol
 
Haterank74 said:
NIce I was curious about that ac262
I picked up some 11 keto topical to run for 6 weeks at 200mg a day it’s a very light compound will stack it with 7 keto , enclo and sustain looking for a slight recomp

Your PCT should be easy since u used Enclo like a sorta test base , I’d continue 12.5 then a per taper to 6.25 also add in whatever natural test booster u used and liked before maybe something for cortisol
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In practice enclo doesn’t do a damn thing on cycle to make PCT easier. It is not and never will be at any dose a test base
 
WickedWarlock said:
In practice enclo doesn’t do a damn thing on cycle to make PCT easier. It is not and never will be at any dose a test base
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I agree with you regarding it’s not a real test base , but to think it doesn’t do anything is wrong I ran enclo many many times compounded enclo on various weak cycles Andros and Sarms and it does make it easier at least in my case bloods pulled but I could be a high responder I mean 12.5 a day gets me pretty high 900s and e2 isn’t crazy 30s but it’s not test and won’t ever be ..That low libido and lethargic feeling just isn’t there for me. Personally when asked I would recommend people a 4 ANDRO topical over enclo but hey some people don’t have it or can’t afford it or get **** for free so make the best of it I guess.
 
Haterank74 said:
I agree with you regarding it’s not a real test base , but to think it doesn’t do anything is wrong I ran enclo many many times compounded enclo on various weak cycles Andros and Sarms and it does make it easier at least in my case bloods pulled but I could be a high responder I mean 12.5 a day gets me pretty high 900s and e2 isn’t crazy 30s but it’s not test and won’t ever be ..That low libido and lethargic feeling just isn’t there for me. Personally when asked I would recommend people a 4 ANDRO topical over enclo but hey some people don’t have it or can’t afford it or get **** for free so make the best of it I guess.
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You would be the only person that it works for in that use case then. Numerous people have tried and it didn’t work
 
Haterank74 said:
NIce I was curious about that ac262
I picked up some 11 keto topical to run for 6 weeks at 200mg a day it’s a very light compound will stack it with 7 keto , enclo and sustain looking for a slight recomp

Your PCT should be easy since u used Enclo like a sorta test base , I’d continue 12.5 then a per taper to 6.25 also add in whatever natural test booster u used and liked before maybe something for cortisol
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Was also curious about 11 Keto since I wanted to lean up a bit. AC262 so far is good. More definition as well and strength shot up alot all around. PCT I'm staying with Enclo and adding Sustain Alpha and Endoamp by IF.
 
Haterank74 said:
NIce I was curious about that ac262
I picked up some 11 keto topical to run for 6 weeks at 200mg a day it’s a very light compound will stack it with 7 keto , enclo and sustain looking for a slight recomp

Your PCT should be easy since u used Enclo like a sorta test base , I’d continue 12.5 then a per taper to 6.25 also add in whatever natural test booster u used and liked before maybe something for cortisol
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Was also curious about 11 Keto since I wanted to lean up a bit. AC262 so far is good. More definition as well and strength shot up alot all around. PCT I'm staying with Enclo and adding Sustain Alpha and Endoamp by IF
 
JOERAMHIT24 said:
Was also curious about 11 Keto since I wanted to lean up a bit. AC262 so far is good. More definition as well and strength shot up alot all around. PCT I'm staying with Enclo and adding Sustain Alpha and Endoamp by IF.
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That 11 keto I messaged with the owner of IF, cool dude he seems. He recommended I take the 11keto with Dermacrine. Wonder if Dermacrine would be a good base for milder stuff as well
 
JOERAMHIT24 said:
That 11 keto I messaged with the owner of IF, cool dude he seems. He recommended I take the 11keto with Dermacrine. Wonder if Dermacrine would be a good base for milder stuff as well
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Yeah Rob is a good guy and quality stuff over there

Dermacrine would be very weak base but yeah a lot of people like it. I’d run it like u want then hit up some PCT I like a SERM and Sustain Alpha but 11 keto and Dermacrine is weak suppression but I always run a serm to be in the safe side
 
Haterank74 said:
Yeah Rob is a good guy and quality stuff over there

Dermacrine would be very weak base but yeah a lot of people like it. I’d run it like u want then hit up some PCT I like a SERM and Sustain Alpha but 11 keto and Dermacrine is weak suppression but I always run a serm to be in the safe side
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I like his Alpha Four formula, I'd probably agree I'll us that as my test base for a higher dose AC262 cycle. I'm testing the low dose and I'm getting looks and compliments at just 10mg. So that 11Keto I may throw in with AC262 for my summer cycle with Enclo lol again and summer time Im doing my Icon One and Alpha Four cycle, well see. So far AC262 is the best ive ever used aside from the original Superdrol and Turinabol back then, my girl looks at me alot suspiciously and grabbed my bottle of Warhorse MaxBuild 360 and glanced at it lol 😆
 
JOERAMHIT24 said:
I like his Alpha Four formula, I'd probably agree I'll us that as my test base for a higher dose AC262 cycle. I'm testing the low dose and I'm getting looks and compliments at just 10mg. So that 11Keto I may throw in with AC262 for my summer cycle with Enclo lol again and summer time Im doing my Icon One and Alpha Four cycle, well see. So far AC262 is the best ive ever used aside from the original Superdrol and Turinabol back then, my girl looks at me alot suspiciously and grabbed my bottle of Warhorse MaxBuild 360 and glanced at it lol 😆
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That’s awesome dm your ac source 👀
 
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