Wesley VS. S23 (sarm)

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What's up everyone. I reached out to BTP Creations (www.btpcreations.com) and requested to do a Log on the Sarm S23. Reason being, it is one of the best Sarms in my opinion and it is also one of the least known about and/or reviewed Sarm out there. There's not a ton of info on it anywhere. The thing I hear alot with Bodybuilders or Gym Rats is that "Sarms are useless". Which of course is a completely dumb statement. Not everything is Anadrol. To be quite honest, the majority of my PT and Supp clients actually are natural or seeking low dose HRT or Sarms, etc. (also worthy of mention are Ostarine and LGD)

S23 (defined)-

S23
is an orally bioavailable, nonsteroidal selective androgen receptor modulator (SARM) that has been proven to increase lean muscle and bone tissue while being tissue selective (unlike traditional steroids).
Studies and user reports suggest that S23 is the closest SARM to steroids, with a few key differences, such as decreased prostate size. Other user reports suggest that S23 is a much more powerful version of S4 Andarine) and the benefits of this SARM falls in the category of hardening muscle and creating a grainier aesthetic look.



I am not affiliated with BTP Creations and they did not pay me to review this product. I did receive my product free of charge. I will leave a fair and unbiased review including any benefits, and side effects, based on the following criteria below:

Strength
Muscle Hardness
Size
Endurance
Cardio Function
Vascularity
Aggression
Anger
Depression
Overall Mood
Acne
Oily Skin
Changes in mood/temperment
Agression in the Gym
How this effects Sex
Sex Drive
Any sexually related issues
Nightmares
Night Sweats
Any conversion to gyno/pre-gyno
liver or kidney issues if they present themselves
Hair thinning
Hair Darkening
Hair growth



I will also be noting various other experiences while on. I am currently on 100% legal prescribed HRT and have been for many years on and off. I have a script for 100mgs of Cyp every 4th day. I am currently around 210lbs BF. I will be using 45mgs of S23 daily broken into 1-3 dosages. I have not decided yet but will comment as we go along. 30mgs per day is a pretty standard dosage, so 45mgs will be considered high.

The main 3 benefits discussed with S23 are:

1) Lean Muscle Gains
2) Strength Gains
3) Bodyfat loss


I will be increasing Cals at least 500 cals per day. I do have some other products (not anabolics) that are OTC that I will be using along side this run and I will post some photos and description of those as we go along.

I will do my best to update this log every few days. I may throw in some workout routines I did that day or some videos, just like some of my other logs if you have ever seen those. If you have questions or even product questions please let me know and I will do my best to respond.

Thanks everyone for following along!

BTPCREATIONS


Discount code is "SAVE10" in the event you wish to purchase your own.




 

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Love s23. Going to finish my cycle off with it. Start Sunday. Following along
 
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Awesome i'll get in on this!
 
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What is your previous experience with sarms/ph/roids?
Thanks everyone!!

Brienn I have used AAS on and off for 20+ years. I have had an HRT script since i was 25? So 16 years... Every compound you can imagine. Competed 100+ times in 4 sports but am currently retired (strongman, bodybuilding, PL and highland games)

Sarms wise, I have used Ostarine, LGD, SR9009, Rad140, MK677 extensively though I know this is not a SARM. S4.. I can't even think of what else.

Pretty much everything LOL.
 

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Thanks everyone!!

Brienn I have used AAS on and off for 20+ years. I have had an HRT script since i was 25? So 16 years... Every compound you can imagine. Competed 100+ times in 4 sports but am currently retired (strongman, bodybuilding, PL and highland games)

Sarms wise, I have used Ostarine, LGD, SR9009, Rad140, MK677 extensively though I know this is not a SARM. S4.. I can't even think of what else.

Pretty much everything LOL.
Hahaha roger that. Just wanted to make sure you’re prepared. I love s23 but it’s the closest to a ph/ds I’ve taken. I’ve ran it a few times and loved it. and 45 is a pretty hefty dose. Highest I’ve been to was 35.
 
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Hahaha roger that. Just wanted to make sure you’re prepared. I love s23 but it’s the closest to a ph/ds I’ve taken. I’ve ran it a few times and loved it. and 45 is a pretty hefty dose. Highest I’ve been to was 35.
Would you mind giving me a more detailed explanation of what exactly you noticed effects and or sides wise? And what if any PH, or AAS would you compare this to?

I think having multiple feedback inside this thread will make it that much for valuable to a newbie to S23 who is thinking about using. Would be much appreciated. Thank you sir :)
 

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Would you mind giving me a more detailed explanation of what exactly you noticed effects and or sides wise? And what if any PH, or AAS would you compare this to?

I think having multiple feedback inside this thread will make it that much for valuable to a newbie to S23 who is thinking about using. Would be much appreciated. Thank you sir :)
Increase in vascularity, strength, body fat drops. Aggression goes up a bit. If I had to compare to anything, maybe H-drol? But I prefer s23 to hdrol tho. Almost a tbol type reaction for me.
 

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And as far as sides, your liver isn’t going to be happy haha Darker urine and a shorter fuse. The shutdown was brutal but with trt that’s no problem.
 
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Update Day 2

So yesterday I went and trained after taking 2 capsules. I was super super sore from my previous workout, I probably should have rested, but instead I went in and did some very light sets of Incline Bench Press varying my grip up on each set and resting in between sets maybe 90 seconds.

Incline Bench Press
135x10
135x20
135x20
225x10
225x10
225x10
135 to failure? 40 or 50 reps.. I lost count.

WesleyInman Trap routine (did the complete routine as seen in video)

So anyways, I did notice I had a light headache right before I got to the gym and that was about an hour after I took my 2nd dosage. I did 3 doses yesterday.

I can't attribute that headache to the S23 yet. But I will watch to see if this spikes my BP. If anything I am willing to bet its my Nootropic aka Alpha Mood, or maybe even the combo of the Alpha and the S23? Let's see what happens.

Also I forgot to mention. I do use a prescribed BP med. Propanolol. Also I use a Nootropic (Alpha Mind)with a stimulant as well as drink coffee

I use LIV52 daily, Nexium and Veda Gest for Digestion (I am logging that now too)


Here is a little bit of my Stash if you wanna take a look...Please no questions on any of the RC. If you need those items (exem, Tada or FL Modafinil) you can use my code "WES15" at checkout for 15% off at www.maresearchchems.com

Anyways I am going to take 2 caps of S23 today at once and see how I feel after that (BP, or other)

I'm still sore a bit today but will hit the gym again. Might do some light leg work, not sure.

But reason I am hitting gym even when I am sore, is because my time is limited. I may miss the entire weekend. At my age with work and kids, this is what I have to do sadly, even though it is not optimal IMO.

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is s23 a good kickstarter in place of dboll ( too much water weight ) for a cycle say test and eq? Also how long can you run s23 and is there a big difference in yk11 as that is the other sarm i hear that is most like steroids.
 
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I'll have to add that exercise to my back day when i do traps!
 

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is s23 a good kickstarter in place of dboll ( too much water weight ) for a cycle say test and eq? Also how long can you run s23 and is there a big difference in yk11 as that is the other sarm i hear that is most like steroids.
I’d say it’s a good kick starter. I started my cycle with 4 weeks of dbol and I’m taking s23 the last 6 weeks. S23 really dries me out and helps with vascularity. Depending on your cycle history, you can think about that. S23 is the closest to real steroids (in my opinion)and I prefer it over some phs/steroids. Yk-11 isn’t too bad but s23 all day.
 

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What's up everyone. I reached out to BTP Creations (www.btpcreations.com) and requested to do a Log on the Sarm S23. Reason being, it is one of the best Sarms in my opinion and it is also one of the least known about and/or reviewed Sarm out there. There's not a ton of info on it anywhere. The thing I hear alot with Bodybuilders or Gym Rats is that "Sarms are useless". Which of course is a completely dumb statement. Not everything is Anadrol. To be quite honest, the majority of my PT and Supp clients actually are natural or seeking low dose HRT or Sarms, etc. (also worthy of mention are Ostarine and LGD)

S23 (defined)-
S23
is an orally bioavailable, nonsteroidal selective androgen receptor modulator (SARM) that has been proven to increase lean muscle and bone tissue while being tissue selective (unlike traditional steroids).
Studies and user reports suggest that S23 is the closest SARM to steroids, with a few key differences, such as decreased prostate size. Other user reports suggest that S23 is a much more powerful version of S4 Andarine) and the benefits of this SARM falls in the category of hardening muscle and creating a grainier aesthetic look.



I am not affiliated with BTP Creations and they did not pay me to review this product. I did receive my product free of charge. I will leave a fair and unbiased review including any benefits, and side effects, based on the following criteria below:

Strength
Muscle Hardness
Size
Endurance
Cardio Function
Vascularity
Aggression
Anger
Depression
Overall Mood
Acne
Oily Skin
Changes in mood/temperment
Agression in the Gym
How this effects Sex
Sex Drive
Any sexually related issues
Nightmares
Night Sweats
Any conversion to gyno/pre-gyno
liver or kidney issues if they present themselves
Hair thinning
Hair Darkening
Hair growth



I will also be noting various other experiences while on. I am currently on 100% legal prescribed HRT and have been for many years on and off. I have a script for 100mgs of Cyp every 4th day. I am currently around 210lbs BF. I will be using 45mgs of S23 daily broken into 1-3 dosages. I have not decided yet but will comment as we go along. 30mgs per day is a pretty standard dosage, so 45mgs will be considered high.

The main 3 benefits discussed with S23 are:
1) Lean Muscle Gains
2) Strength Gains
3) Bodyfat loss


I will be increasing Cals at least 500 cals per day. I do have some other products (not anabolics) that are OTC that I will be using along side this run and I will post some photos and description of those as we go along.

I will do my best to update this log every few days. I may throw in some workout routines I did that day or some videos, just like some of my other logs if you have ever seen those. If you have questions or even product questions please let me know and I will do my best to respond.

Thanks everyone for following along!

BTPCREATIONS


Discount code is "SAVE10" in the event you wish to purchase your own.




Do you have liver support? If not, you will need some. I suggest 1000 mg TUDCA and some NAC.
 

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What's up everyone. I reached out to BTP Creations (www.btpcreations.com) and requested to do a Log on the Sarm S23. Reason being, it is one of the best Sarms in my opinion and it is also one of the least known about and/or reviewed Sarm out there. There's not a ton of info on it anywhere. The thing I hear alot with Bodybuilders or Gym Rats is that "Sarms are useless". Which of course is a completely dumb statement. Not everything is Anadrol. To be quite honest, the majority of my PT and Supp clients actually are natural or seeking low dose HRT or Sarms, etc. (also worthy of mention are Ostarine and LGD)

S23 (defined)-
S23
is an orally bioavailable, nonsteroidal selective androgen receptor modulator (SARM) that has been proven to increase lean muscle and bone tissue while being tissue selective (unlike traditional steroids).
Studies and user reports suggest that S23 is the closest SARM to steroids, with a few key differences, such as decreased prostate size. Other user reports suggest that S23 is a much more powerful version of S4 Andarine) and the benefits of this SARM falls in the category of hardening muscle and creating a grainier aesthetic look.



I am not affiliated with BTP Creations and they did not pay me to review this product. I did receive my product free of charge. I will leave a fair and unbiased review including any benefits, and side effects, based on the following criteria below:

Strength
Muscle Hardness
Size
Endurance
Cardio Function
Vascularity
Aggression
Anger
Depression
Overall Mood
Acne
Oily Skin
Changes in mood/temperment
Agression in the Gym
How this effects Sex
Sex Drive
Any sexually related issues
Nightmares
Night Sweats
Any conversion to gyno/pre-gyno
liver or kidney issues if they present themselves
Hair thinning
Hair Darkening
Hair growth



I will also be noting various other experiences while on. I am currently on 100% legal prescribed HRT and have been for many years on and off. I have a script for 100mgs of Cyp every 4th day. I am currently around 210lbs BF. I will be using 45mgs of S23 daily broken into 1-3 dosages. I have not decided yet but will comment as we go along. 30mgs per day is a pretty standard dosage, so 45mgs will be considered high.

The main 3 benefits discussed with S23 are:
1) Lean Muscle Gains
2) Strength Gains
3) Bodyfat loss


I will be increasing Cals at least 500 cals per day. I do have some other products (not anabolics) that are OTC that I will be using along side this run and I will post some photos and description of those as we go along.

I will do my best to update this log every few days. I may throw in some workout routines I did that day or some videos, just like some of my other logs if you have ever seen those. If you have questions or even product questions please let me know and I will do my best to respond.

Thanks everyone for following along!

BTPCREATIONS


Discount code is "SAVE10" in the event you wish to purchase your own.




Man, BTP has some good designers on their website. Are they new to the scene? Are they a board sponsor?
 
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Thanks everyone for following. Multi Quote isn't working so I will try my best to respond to everyone.

Thanks @Beau

@ValiantThor08 I will not have before and afters sir. I don't have all that much time tbh. But I will give an idea of bodyfat lost and weight gained!

@jtbull I like sarms as replacements for oral steroids. Will s23 be comparable to dbol? Absolutely not but it has been often been compared to similar gains of anavar and tbol. I will compare this to an oral AAS when I am done. I have never used it at 45mgs so I truly cannot say yet.

@LeanEngineer thank you sir

@JoePaul39 yes sir I am using LIV52 sir from India. I also sell it on my store www.gymntonic.com
Also BTP is not a board sponsor and they do have some great products. Shhhhhhh LOL. Don't spread the word too loudly!!

@ValiantThor08 I tried their PWO. It's solid, but it has Beta Alanine in it, and I hate that compound. I have a few guys using it now and they love it. And as for their product line. Shhhhh LOL. Don't tell anyone please. We gotta keep that low key!
 
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Update Saturday June 8

I took 30mgs of s23 and had a huge meal around noon time yesterday. Hit the gym about 1 hour exactly later.

I wanted to just stay in the Squat rack and hit some very light weight, super deep and nice slow and controlled. Not sure everyone here knows but I tore my quad 100% off the bone 3 years ago, squatting. Was in PT for a year and it has healed but is not 100% rom. My strength on deadlift is back to about 90%. I hit 500 x 10 reps last week with ease. But my squat is not even close to back. I have been doing 315 at most, and I am scared to go any heavier. My max squat ever weighing 220lbs was around 785lbs.

Here is right after I tore it off the bone and the picture after the surgery too. They did 4 vertical holes through the kneecap. The bone was so strong that the drillbit broke off and I still have a bit in my kneecap. Otherwise they took Kevlar aka bulletproof material and tied that to the heads of the quads. Pulled the quad back into place and then ran the kevlar through the kneecap and sewed it in below the kneecaps. Supposedly it is far stronger then it could ever be naturally now.

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Feel free to check out some of my old Squat footage in Wesley VS squat police

Ok so workout wise here is what I did:

Squat
135x10
135x10
135x20
225x10
225x10
225x10
225x20

Donkey Calf Raises

200x10
300x10
400(rack)x10

What I will say is I 100% felt the s23. My CNS felt awesome on the weights today. I felt very sturdy and all muscles were firing very firm, if that makes sense. Aka my stability muscles all felt in overdrive. I felt a tiny bit of aggression. I did not notice any spike in blood pressure, but also oddly, my endurance was off the chart. I mean even sets of 20 I was not out of breathe, etc. I def noticed the increased abilities in this workout even though it was low.

So far so good. I will be taking S23 on off days too, just FYI. Will try and do 15mgs 3x per day on off days.
 
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Agreed. 405 squat as easy as you did it with hands on the bar is impressive. Then doing it no hands!
That is an impressive squat.
Thank you both very much!

Update Tuesday 6/11


Still been running the product as stated. 3x per day on off days and 2 caps preworkout on workout days and 1 in the am on workout days.

So far still good. Just still noticed on my last few workouts the same thing I mentioned about my CNS feeling more stable on workout days. The other compound I noticed this same thing on in the past was Trest. I just feel way better during the workout and weights go up nice and smooth.

Definitely finding this product helps motivate me get into the gym..

Still soon to really notice anything else but will keep you guys updated again shortly.
 
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Update 6/14

Hit some shoulders yesterday. Little bit of traps too on a different machine.
Won't list the workout today but a few things I noticed today:

Looking at my reflection doing the Seated Dumbells, I swear I have more separation in my biceps and triceps already. I def visibly can notice I look a bit grainer or harder from using the S23. So this was cool to see. I do feel a little bigger to be honest, I always can notice in how my shirts fit, and they def feel a tiny big tighter for fact. I also am noticing that I am retaining some water in my face...

My diet hasn't been too clean, nor too bad, but I am thinking this is from the S23.

I also am shaving every single day which I hate. But I def have more facial hair trying to come in and it's super dark too. Annoying but it very commonly happens to me with orals or anabolics.

Workout have been awesome on S23. I have been taking this new nootropic I have called HAPPY BEE- 1 hour prior. And the S23 1-2 hours prior.

Works super well. Another thing about this S23, I am super motivated to train on it.




Just for kicks and giggles my daughter and I dug out some of my old Strongman/Bodybuilding stuff.. WSM + Staff I.D's.
I worked for Worlds Strongest Man, Americas Strongest Man and Europa from I believe 2007-2013. Madison used to come with me on the floor before and after WSM contests. She loved every minute of it. We used to get VIP seats for my family and friends.
My favorite shows were prob Madison Square Garden 2011? Mohegan Sun 2010 when Poundstone beat Pudzianowski. And 2009 when my brother in Law Paul bet Pudzianowski $5 bucks that Terry Hollands would beat him in the Yoke. Mariusz lost and had to borrow $5 bucks from someone to pay him LMAO.

Back at the gym today and probably again Sunday. Will report anything new shortly.

Wondering if I should try the entire 45mgs PWO. Thinking I may even do it today. Why not?
 
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Wondering if I should try the entire 45mgs PWO. Thinking I may even do it today. Why not?
Go big or go home on the pre I guess:)

But working at the WSM sounds pretty sweet!
 

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