Water weight/bloat

Gw44

Gw44

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On my fourth week of my first cycle. (Msten) and my bloat and water weight are horrific. I feel myself jiggle. I went from 179- 197. I didn't eat to get fat. But my gains have now stalled and I was wondering if I should bump up my calories or not? And how long it'll take for this damn water weight to go away? Pct will be nolva and nolvadren xt with liver support. Also, would milk thistle be enough for liver support pct? Or something else?
 
Lol you are bloated most likely from 3 things (all or some).

1. High estrogen, get an AI. Even over the counter stuff like erase Pro will kick in fast and work. Double up the dose until you see bloat start to go away.

2. To much sodium in your diet. Cut out sodium and drink a ton of water to flush your system. Cardio and sauna are prolly good ideas.

3. Toooo many carbs. Cut out carbs of your diet. Get you carbs in check. Eat less than 100g for 3 days then refeed at 250g in one day then back to 100g for 3 days. Eat carbs before you lift like an hour before at 25-50g and immediately after at around 50-100g depending on if its a refeed or low carb day.
 
This product doesn't aromatize to estrogen, I drink 2 gallons of water a day. And I will lose way too much weight if I cut carbs like that. Lol.
 
1. Msten doesn't aromatize to estrogen. 2. I drink two gallons a day. 3. I would lose too much weight if I did that. I'm already pretty damn skinny as it is. It'll probably go away in pct.
 
I was going to post some advice, then saw DangerDave said everything I would have suggested, then I saw you post that you don't like his advice, so I am leaving.
 
Gw44 said:
This product doesn't aromatize to estrogen, I drink 2 gallons of water a day. And I will lose way too much weight if I cut carbs like that. Lol.
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Just because it doesn't aromatize doesn't mean estrogen can't be high or get out of control.

When your hpta shuts down and test production stops your body freaks out and can compensate by producing or aromatizing test into estrogen. Because estrogen being recycled out of your body or high amounts of estrogen can signal or trigger a reaction to produce test.... but you are inhibiting that by use of the PH. So your body goes into freak-out mode and tries to get test production started and now you are stuck with high estrogen and no test.

I know this stuff man. SD is a non aromatizing compound but estrogen sides and bloat can be a problem without a test base. Always use a test base to keep bloat down.

Don't believe me get a blood test.

By cutting carbs you lose water weight not REAL weight. Look up carb cycling. Its a great way to grow and stay dry and lean.
 
Well do you think I should start pct earlier then? Or start taking nolva? Also, how did my pct look?
 
Gw44 said:
Well do you think I should start pct earlier then? Or start taking nolva? Also, how did my pct look?
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Don't pct early unless you feel you need to. The fast drop in weight you are gunna get will cause muscle loss for sure. Use my advice and cut down the bloat before pct. Increase protein and by cutting carbs you won't lose muscle just bloat. That is enough carbs to keep you anabolic as long as you refeed properly.


Nolva will work for pct. 40/40/20/20 get some DAA or another good test booster.
 
Thank you! I'll grab some daa, got any reccomendation on macros? I need to eat 3700 cals a day.
 
Gw44 said:
Thank you! I'll grab some daa, got any reccomendation on macros? I need to eat 3700 cals a day.
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Google macro calculator. I use one off there. I eat the same sh*t every day lol. My diet never changes I just add calories as I gain size.

Probably gunna be around 50/20/30 (p/c/f) on low carb day and 40/30/30 for refeed.
 
DangerDave said:
Google macro calculator. I use one off there. I eat the same sh*t every day lol. My diet never changes I just add calories as I gain size.

Probably gunna be around 50/20/30 (p/c/f) on low carb day and 40/30/30 for refeed.
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Sounds good, thank you again!
 
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