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Warning: Orals, Antacids, and elevated stroke/cardiovascular issues

Gutterpump

Gutterpump

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I know many people here heavily use PPI's (antacids - proton pump inhibitors like Omeprazole) while on a cycle of orals due to severe heartburn. This is a very very bad idea. There was a serious warning released about these drugs - they highly elevate the risk of stroke and cardiovascular issues, something that's already a big concern while on cycle. It's the worst time to be using these drugs.

Here's an article that I just saw about this:

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Not only do these types of antacids raise the risk of cardiovascular issues, but they cause major kidney stress.
 
Good Read.
 
Im permanently on nexium fml...
 
yates84 said:
Im permanently on nexium fml...
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Used to be on nexium 40mg everyday, started taking a probiotics pill daily instead after 1-2 months heartburn pretty much stopped. Ive been off nexium for about a year after being on it for 3-4.. Maybe once a month now I'll need to take an antacid but that's usually only if I eat something too spicy and it triggers my heartburn, might be worth giving it a shot
 
FaurckkMyronn said:
Used to be on nexium 40mg everyday, started taking a probiotics pill daily instead after 1-2 months heartburn pretty much stopped. Ive been off nexium for about a year after being on it for 3-4.. Maybe once a month now I'll need to take an antacid but that's usually only if I eat something too spicy and it triggers my heartburn, might be worth giving it a shot
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Were you on cycle though? On cycle makes a huge difference
 
Just like yates84, I am pretty much permanently on Prilosec. It does not have anything to do with cycling etc., it's just that at this point I can't function without a proton pump inhibitor. I would not be able to eat anything (except maybe bananas) and even drinking anything but water would give me heartburn. With Prilosec, I can live a pretty normal life and not be bothered by reflux at all.

About hamdysayed 's question: as far as I know, there are no natural remedies that will work 100% like these pills do. Maybe if I carried a bag of baking soda with me at all times and ate it 3-4 times a day... but that's just horrible and makes you bloated as hell. If someone has a solution I'd like to hear it, but I've tried many things, including flax seeds, and no, it does not help much at all.
 
Have you guys tried Zantac? It's an H2 receptor blocker. I take it everyday. I eat spicy foods, drink a lot of coffee, and eat the majority of my calories at night before bed. It's a horrible combination for GERD but I'm stubborn. Zantac seems to help, with some occasional tums thrown in when needed.
 
Try rennie it's no where near as strong, it's basically chalk, bicarbonate of soda is great for heartburn too. As is aniseed...
 
FaurckkMyronn said:
No I wasn't, just thought it was worth mentioning
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Definitely worth a try man, appreciate it. On cycle heartburn seems to be unstoppable for me if I'm not on my nexium.
 
BRUstrong said:
Have you guys tried Zantac? It's an H2 receptor blocker. I take it everyday. I eat spicy foods, drink a lot of coffee, and eat the majority of my calories at night before bed. It's a horrible combination for GERD but I'm stubborn. Zantac seems to help, with some occasional tums thrown in when needed.
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I'm just like you diet wise and this is what I've been doing
 
6-8? Jesus! I have 1 just for chile eating competitions and I don't even get ring sting the day after! And I mean eating Carolina reapers, the hottest chiles in the world! What's your diet like?
 
solidsnake said:
6-8? Jesus! I have 1 just for chile eating competitions and I don't even get ring sting the day after! And I mean eating Carolina reapers, the hottest chiles in the world! What's your diet like?
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I only need them on methyls. They really **** me up. Normally I'm fine with a couple tums at night if I eat close to bed, but orals/methyls really **** up my stomach. I used to take 2 every 4 hours or so on my last run of epistane/tren. Same when I take tbol. It's really bad. I'm waking up at night and dosing omeprazole a couple times too. I think I'm done with methyls. They never used to do that to me years ago.

On my last run, I was cutting and eating super clean. Same when on tbol.
 
The effect of chewing sugar-free gum on gastro-esophageal reflux.
Moazzez R1, Bartlett D, Anggiansah A.
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Abstract
Regurgitated acid entering the mouth in gastro-esophageal reflux disease can cause dental erosion. Chewing gum could induce increased swallowing frequency, thus improving the clearance rate of reflux within the esophagus. The null hypothesis of this study was that chewing gum does not have any effect on the clearance of reflux from the distal esophagus. Thirty-one subjects presenting with symptoms of reflux were given a refluxogenic meal twice and were randomly selected to chew gum for half an hour after eating the meal. Esophageal pH was measured, and pH data were analyzed and compared during the postprandial periods for 2 hrs on the 2 occasions. The median (IQ range) values for the % time pH < 4 during the postprandial period without chewing gum were 5.7 (1.7-13.5) and, with chewing gum, 3.6 (0.3-7.3), respectively (p = 0.001). Chewing sugar-free gum for half an hour after a meal can reduce acidic postprandial esophageal reflux.


Note:do not use minty gums. Although peppermint is known for its soothing qualities, peppermint may inappropriately relax and open the lower esophageal sphincter. This can allow gastric acid to flow up into the esophagus. This may trigger symptoms of acid reflux.
 
Gutterpump said:
I only need them on methyls. They really **** me up. Normally I'm fine with a couple tums at night if I eat close to bed, but orals/methyls really **** up my stomach. I used to take 2 every 4 hours or so on my last run of epistane/tren. Same when I take tbol. It's really bad. I'm waking up at night and dosing omeprazole a couple times too. I think I'm done with methyls. They never used to do that to me years ago.

On my last run, I was cutting and eating super clean. Same when on tbol.
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good call bro, as I always think fuk gainz if u r not healthy to enjoy them
 
David Dunn said:
The effect of chewing sugar-free gum on gastro-esophageal reflux.
Moazzez R1, Bartlett D, Anggiansah A.
Author information
Abstract
Regurgitated acid entering the mouth in gastro-esophageal reflux disease can cause dental erosion. Chewing gum could induce increased swallowing frequency, thus improving the clearance rate of reflux within the esophagus. The null hypothesis of this study was that chewing gum does not have any effect on the clearance of reflux from the distal esophagus. Thirty-one subjects presenting with symptoms of reflux were given a refluxogenic meal twice and were randomly selected to chew gum for half an hour after eating the meal. Esophageal pH was measured, and pH data were analyzed and compared during the postprandial periods for 2 hrs on the 2 occasions. The median (IQ range) values for the % time pH < 4 during the postprandial period without chewing gum were 5.7 (1.7-13.5) and, with chewing gum, 3.6 (0.3-7.3), respectively (p = 0.001). Chewing sugar-free gum for half an hour after a meal can reduce acidic postprandial esophageal reflux.


Note:do not use minty gums. Although peppermint is known for its soothing qualities, peppermint may inappropriately relax and open the lower esophageal sphincter. This can allow gastric acid to flow up into the esophagus. This may trigger symptoms of acid reflux.
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So true! That's happened to me loads of times in the past
 
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