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The world in 2007
By Dennis Prager
Tuesday, December 19, 2006

On the eve of the year 2007, it is evident to anyone with the fortitude to see reality that the world is not getting better, nor even staying the same, but getting worse.

There are a few positive developments. But they are mostly technological and medical. More people are eating better and living longer than ever before. And the Internet gives more people access to more information (and more lies) than ever before. But aside from medical and technological progress, there is little positive to report. And, as always, the technological breakthroughs are frequently morally mixed bags.

Almost wherever one looks, there are more reasons for pessimism than optimism.

Africa is probably in worse condition than at any time in recorded history. Though often exaggerated, great numbers of young and middle-aged people are dying from AIDS; corruption in Africa is so widespread and deeply rooted that aid workers are telling the West to stop giving funds to Africa because those funds only serve to prop up corrupt regimes and increase poverty, malnutrition and violence; about three million people have died in the ongoing wars in the Congo; and the Islamic Arab regime of Sudan has allowed or directed genocide.

In Asia, China, sitting on reserves of over a trillion dollars, is beginning to regard itself as a world power, and most of where it meddles, it plays an immoral role (regarding Iran's nuclear weapons and the North Korea regime). As China's economic power grows, it will increasingly seek to flex its muscles. This could mean tension over Taiwan, but it will even more likely mean that Japan will try to become a military power once again and perhaps develop its own nuclear weapons -- because of North Korea's weapons and because of China's strength and ambitions. A strong Japan, given North Korea's lunatic regime and China's drive for regional dominance, is a positive development but an unfortunate one nevertheless.

Russia, like China, increasingly uses its power in immoral ways, and its government is becoming increasingly authoritarian.

As bad as Africa and parts of Asia are, the Arab world is in many ways in even worse condition and poses a far greater threat to world stability. The Arab world is largely divided between corrupt regimes and Islamic totalitarians who await the downfall of those regimes. Since World War II, the Arab world has sought a solution to its backwardness -- first in nationalism, then in Pan-Arab nationalism and Marxism, and now in Islam. "Islam is the answer" is the motto of vast numbers of young Arabs (and Muslims elsewhere), and the Islam they are referring to is often not benign. Making matters worse, the Arab world is consumed by hate. Hatred and oil have become its primary exports: hatred of Israel, of America and of other non-Muslims in its midst -- e.g., Maronite Christians in Lebanon, non-Muslims in Sudan and Christians in the Palestinian territories.

This hatred within the Arab world is in turn the product of a culture that values face-saving over truth-telling. To this day, the Egyptian government and public deny that the EgyptAir jet that fell out of the sky in 2000 did so because the pilot, an Egyptian Muslim, decided to kill himself and all those on board. The majority of the Arab world does not believe that Arabs plotted and executed the 9/11 murders of American civilians. And it widely believes that Jews slaughter non-Jewish children to use their blood to bake matzos on Passover; that Israel spreads AIDS in Arab countries by sending AIDS-infected prostitutes into Arab countries; and that "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is a genuine text authored by Jews conspiring to take over the world.

The Islamic world at large is increasingly influenced, and sometimes dominated, by a violent expression of religiosity that seeks to impose itself on any society it can. One of the largest Muslim countries has declared its desire to see Israel annihilated and is presumed to be developing nuclear weapons that would enable it to do so. Anti-Semitism in the Arab and Muslim worlds has reached levels most of humanity thought had been vanquished along with Nazi regime.

Western Europe is disappearing demographically and culturally. Like other secular societies, Western Europe is not repopulating itself and has relied on importing immigrants to provide citizens and workers. Most of them are Muslims, and many of them loathe Western Europe and its values. It is difficult to imagine any other future scenario for Western Europe than its becoming Islamicized or having a civil war. Western Europe is the first secular society in human history and consequently believes in very little beyond having a secure and comfortable life untroubled by war, work or children.

The increasing influence of the world's Left makes combating the above problems very difficult. The Left dominates the world's news media and universities, is regaining power in Latin America, and is socially as well as politically dominant in most Western European countries. And it either sides with America's enemies or makes combating them far more difficult. Thus it is increasingly common to see Che Guevara pictures at Hezbollah rallies in Lebanon and to see Western leftists, like London's mayor, honor radical Muslims.

One society stands opposed to all these developments -- the United States of America. But that society is itself deeply divided. About half holds the values of Western Europe; and the other half believes that Western European values -- essentially secularism and socialism -- are anathema to America. The latter half believes America must remain true to its founding principles: Judeo-Christian values; individual freedom and small government; and a melting pot rather than multiculturalism.

Which side wins will determine the fate of mankind for a century or more. And you can't win if you are naively optimistic.

Happy New Year.
 
Dang BP, that's a lot of sh!t to digest. I just hope that China keeps pumping out the steroid powders we rely on ! :D The tough thing about this is that I really don't know who are our true allies and who do we need to eliminate ASAP. I wouldn't want to waste all the resources on Islamofascism only to have to face Russia and China right after that. We should have handled Russia (USSR) right after WWII when they were severely depleted and had no nuclear capabilities, JMO.

On a side note, why do many people world-wide talk sh!t about the US of A but if you give them the opportunity to immigrate into the US of A they will say "Hell yeah !" w/out hesitation ? That proves to me we are a very desirable country to live in so why not copy us and make your own USA in your country !
 
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bpmartyr said:
The world in 2007
By Dennis Prager
Tuesday, December 19, 2006

On the eve of the year 2007, it is evident to anyone with the fortitude to see reality that the world is not getting better, nor even staying the same, but getting worse.

There are a few positive developments. But they are mostly technological and medical. More people are eating better and living longer than ever before. And the Internet gives more people access to more information (and more lies) than ever before. But aside from medical and technological progress, there is little positive to report. And, as always, the technological breakthroughs are frequently morally mixed bags.

Almost wherever one looks, there are more reasons for pessimism than optimism.

How about some good ole' fashion Skepticism, an inclination to doubt what is presented as fact or real in a world that is based in fear management!!!

Africa is probably in worse condition than at any time in recorded history. Though often exaggerated, great numbers of young and middle-aged people are dying from AIDS; corruption in Africa is so widespread and deeply rooted that aid workers are telling the West to stop giving funds to Africa because those funds only serve to prop up corrupt regimes and increase poverty, malnutrition and violence; about three million people have died in the ongoing wars in the Congo; and the Islamic Arab regime of Sudan has allowed or directed genocide.

Africa's demise is directly related to exploitation by global corportism. The fascist regimes and warlords the rule Africa are kept in power by the agents of the corporations that are exploiting them!!!

In Asia, China, sitting on reserves of over a trillion dollars, is beginning to regard itself as a world power, and most of where it meddles, it plays an immoral role (regarding Iran's nuclear weapons and the North Korea regime). As China's economic power grows, it will increasingly seek to flex its muscles. This could mean tension over Taiwan, but it will even more likely mean that Japan will try to become a military power once again and perhaps develop its own nuclear weapons -- because of North Korea's weapons and because of China's strength and ambitions. A strong Japan, given North Korea's lunatic regime and China's drive for regional dominance, is a positive development but an unfortunate one nevertheless.

Russia, like China, increasingly uses its power in immoral ways, and its government is becoming increasingly authoritarian.

Russia and China have never been free or even democratic.
Socialism replaced fuedalism which is now being replaced by corporatism, which are all forms of fascism!!!


As bad as Africa and parts of Asia are, the Arab world is in many ways in even worse condition and poses a far greater threat to world stability. The Arab world is largely divided between corrupt regimes and Islamic totalitarians who await the downfall of those regimes. Since World War II, the Arab world has sought a solution to its backwardness -- first in nationalism, then in Pan-Arab nationalism and Marxism, and now in Islam. "Islam is the answer" is the motto of vast numbers of young Arabs (and Muslims elsewhere), and the Islam they are referring to is often not benign. Making matters worse, the Arab world is consumed by hate. Hatred and oil have become its primary exports: hatred of Israel, of America and of other non-Muslims in its midst -- e.g., Maronite Christians in Lebanon, non-Muslims in Sudan and Christians in the Palestinian territories.

This hatred within the Arab world is in turn the product of a culture that values face-saving over truth-telling. To this day, the Egyptian government and public deny that the EgyptAir jet that fell out of the sky in 2000 did so because the pilot, an Egyptian Muslim, decided to kill himself and all those on board. The majority of the Arab world does not believe that Arabs plotted and executed the 9/11 murders of American civilians. And it widely believes that Jews slaughter non-Jewish children to use their blood to bake matzos on Passover; that Israel spreads AIDS in Arab countries by sending AIDS-infected prostitutes into Arab countries; and that "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is a genuine text authored by Jews conspiring to take over the world.

The Islamic world at large is increasingly influenced, and sometimes dominated, by a violent expression of religiosity that seeks to impose itself on any society it can. One of the largest Muslim countries has declared its desire to see Israel annihilated and is presumed to be developing nuclear weapons that would enable it to do so. Anti-Semitism in the Arab and Muslim worlds has reached levels most of humanity thought had been vanquished along with Nazi regime.

The NAZI regime was just the most openly facist. The Nazi regime did not end when WWII ended. Their form of fascism is still practiced by "zionist" occupation forces primerally in Israel, but also through out the third world by corproate sponcered dictatorships and psudeo-democratic leaders.

Western Europe is disappearing demographically and culturally. Like other secular societies, Western Europe is not repopulating itself and has relied on importing immigrants to provide citizens and workers. Most of them are Muslims, and many of them loathe Western Europe and its values. It is difficult to imagine any other future scenario for Western Europe than its becoming Islamicized or having a civil war. Western Europe is the first secular society in human history and consequently believes in very little beyond having a secure and comfortable life untroubled by war, work or children.

This is the European Union exercising its centralized power by importing more "human resouces"

The increasing influence of the world's Left makes combating the above problems very difficult. The Left dominates the world's news media and universities, is regaining power in Latin America, and is socially as well as politically dominant in most Western European countries. And it either sides with America's enemies or makes combating them far more difficult. Thus it is increasingly common to see Che Guevara pictures at Hezbollah rallies in Lebanon and to see Western leftists, like London's mayor, honor radical Muslims.

"If we don't respect the rights of the people we truly despise, then we are not truly free" Noam Chomsky-MIT professor

One society stands opposed to all these developments -- the United States of America. But that society is itself deeply divided. About half holds the values of Western Europe; and the other half believes that Western European values -- essentially secularism and socialism -- are anathema to America. The latter half believes America must remain true to its founding principles: Judeo-Christian values; individual freedom and small government; and a melting pot rather than multiculturalism.

This has been the state of the USA since the colonial days. The founding fathers were most overtly "deists" and most covertly "free masons", not Judeo-Christian types. Some like Jefferson "owned" slaves while designing documents that stated "all men are created equal", That is the very essense of the formation of the USA; a dual agenda!!!


Which side wins will determine the fate of mankind for a century or more. And you can't win if you are naively optimistic.

Happy New Year.

Prager is correct about the "naive optimism"

However, the very concept of human beings fighting on different sides is the illusion that powers the endless conflict of right and wrong. We are all the same. It is the coruption of the system that creates the supposed differences between each man. Although this is a very thinly veiled agenda of divide and conquor, It actaully unites us because we are the oppressed.

The Purtian (pilgrims) came to the new world to escape the corruption of the Roman Church. They were escaping the materialistic development of the european theocracy. They specifcally wanted to escape the pagan rituals of Christmas, which was a "celebration of immorality" that was adopted by the Roman Church, as the birth of the savior.

Christmas was outlawed in the USA until the late 19th century!!! that's why all those traditional holiday stories are based in Europe. Christmas did not become the mega monster it is(in the USA) until the 20th century----Oddly about the same time as corporatism started to emerge from the shadows!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2007
 
Of course you are not going to agree Rhino, you are a lefty. I know full well your side will never agree with the right on just about anything. I posted this for the reading pleasure of those that share this worldview, not to start yet another long winded left vs. right munitions exchange or I would have placed it in the politics section. Of course you are free to post away with whatever, wherever you would like but I have no interest in rebutting your points no matter how strongly I may disagree. I have yet to see something constructive out of doing so. I am certain that neither of us can add anything to the other that either of us would consider intellectually stimulating or profitable. Of course I can only speak for myself as you may fully well enjoy rehashing the same talking points over and over while neither side budges nor appreciates the opposing view and certainly will not capitulate.
Merry Christmas
 
Sounds like another armageddon message from the Neo-conservatives to me. You know the ones: the sky is falling, the world is ending, lets blame it on the liberals. I've read a few of these stories (from both sides) and the one thing that always pisses me off is that they can easily point out the problems, but at the same time offer no solutions. Just that its the other sides fault.
 
If you consider all things, i believe humanity will be cleansed from the earth like the putrid filth we are, HAPPY HOLIDAYS, now lets stuff out faces, buy crap we dont need, complain about the crap we get and throw trees and garbage on the street when were done.
 
Iron Warrior said:
You can't say that, non-christians might get offended. You're supposed to say happy holidays (j/k) :D

As an athiest, I can never understand why people get offended by Merry Christmas or other sayings, especially if people have no idea what faith you follow. Its not like they are forcing their religion down on me or anything. Just another excuse for people to ***** I guess.
 
zbtboy said:
As an athiest, I can never understand why people get offended by Merry Christmas or other sayings, especially if people have no idea what faith you follow. Its not like they are forcing their religion down on me or anything. Just another excuse for people to ***** I guess.

yeah im with you, just cause you dont believe in somthing you cant expect people to stop believeing around you. Its hard enough to expect people not to smoke around you especially when im eating and someone lights up. Christmas to me is about being with family and celebrating life and good food, i do that all year round but this time everyones on my page.
 
zbtboy said:
As an athiest, I can never understand why people get offended by Merry Christmas or other sayings, especially if people have no idea what faith you follow. Its not like they are forcing their religion down on me or anything. Just another excuse for people to ***** I guess.
I know bro, but I'm a teacher and I was wishing my students a merry christmas 1 week ago and then some stupid wanna be bad a$$ government teacher reminded me that we shouldn't say that because people get offended :icon_lol:
 
bpmartyr said:
Of course you are not going to agree Rhino, you are a lefty. I know full well your side will never agree with the right on just about anything. I posted this for the reading pleasure of those that share this worldview, not to start yet another long winded left vs. right munitions exchange or I would have placed it in the politics section. Of course you are free to post away with whatever, wherever you would like but I have no interest in rebutting your points no matter how strongly I may disagree. I have yet to see something constructive out of doing so. I am certain that neither of us can add anything to the other that either of us would consider intellectually stimulating or profitable. Of course I can only speak for myself as you may fully well enjoy rehashing the same talking points over and over while neither side budges nor appreciates the opposing view and certainly will not capitulate.
Merry Christmas

See how well the system works!!! Divide and conquor!
Problem...Reaction... Solution.

Problem I don't agee with what Dennis Prager writes

Reaction, Yuo take it to heart because it is your post

Solution You call me a Lefty!!! simply perfect! We are doomed!!!

Ps. You are correct, even though I throw and shoot righty

I have been known to turn around in the batters box and swing from the left...and I alway played left wing in hockey!!!!
 
Iron Warrior said:
I know bro, but I'm a teacher and I was wishing my students a merry christmas 1 week ago and then some stupid wanna be bad a$$ government teacher reminded me that we shouldn't say that because people get offended :icon_lol:

This is more division from the "system" administrators. They force the world to comform to some notion of political correctness.

You have the right to wish anyone you want a "Merry Christmas!!!

It is just a wish!!!!

Its not like you said get down on your knees and pray to the one and only Savior, you godless non-christian scumbag!
 
anabolicrhino said:
See how well the system works!!! Divide and conquor!
Problem...Reaction... Solution.

Problem I don't agee with what Dennis Prager writes

Reaction, Yuo take it to heart because it is your post

Solution You call me a Lefty!!! simply perfect! We are doomed!!!

Ps. You are correct, even though I throw and shoot righty

I have been known to turn around in the batters box and swing from the left...and I alway played left wing in hockey!!!!

I don't take it to heart that you disagree. You didn't just say you didn't agree, you posted alternate viewpoints pinpointed toward individual statements made in the article, which I also don't take to heart. I just personally do not want to enter into pointless diatribe with someone who I will never see eye to eye with (regarding politics) and vice versa. I mean no offense and fully subscribe to the notion of agreeing to disagree. Maybe it is expecting to much hoping to keep that stuff over in the politics threads where I can choose not to view or participate. Can I choose not to view and participate here? Sure I can, and that I suppose is what I should do in the future.

Furthermore, I didn't know you considered "lefty" derogitory and apologize sincirely if you took that as an attack. I am I "right winger" and take no opposition to being called what I am. They are just colloquialisms or slang used to place ones ideology into a general category. Saying that this nation was not founded on Judeo-Christian philosophy would certainly, in my mind, qualify someone categorically as one on the left.

All in all, I should know better than to post politically charged articles knowing how much I despise entering into unfruitfull debates that only succeed in making my blood boil, lol. I would prefer to discuss topics that are free from ideology and opinion and full of facts, experience and fun.

Sorry for even bringin it up.
Merry Christmas.
 
bpmartyr said:
I don't take it to heart that you disagree. You didn't just say you didn't agree, you posted alternate viewpoints pinpointed toward individual statements made in the article, which I also don't take to heart. I just personally do not want to enter into pointless diatribe with someone who I will never see eye to eye with (regarding politics) and vice versa. I mean no offense and fully subscribe to the notion of agreeing to disagree. Maybe it is expecting to much hoping to keep that stuff over in the politics threads where I can choose not to view or participate. Can I choose not to view and participate here? Sure I can, and that I suppose is what I should do in the future.

Furthermore, I didn't know you considered "lefty" derogitory and apologize sincirely if you took that as an attack. I am I "right winger" and take no opposition to being called what I am. They are just colloquialisms or slang used to place ones ideology into a general category. Saying that this nation was not founded on Judeo-Christian philosophy would certainly, in my mind, qualify someone categorically as one on the left.

All in all, I should know better than to post politically charged articles knowing how much I despise entering into unfruitfull debates that only succeed in making my blood boil, lol. I would prefer to discuss topics that are free from ideology and opinion and full of facts, experience and fun.

Sorry for even bringin it up.
Merry Christmas.


Thanks!There is never a need to explain yourself to me. I enjoy this form of debate as it keeps me aware of all the possible types of thought in the universe. I enjoy challenging fixed perceptions and make no claim to a better way. I was excited by the title of the post, which motivated my reponce, as it was Prager's comments and not yours. I would gladly defend your right to believe or profess anything that you feel is the truth-Merry Christmas!
 
You know what our species needs? A good, brutal, alien invasion. Something on par with War of the Worlds or Independance Day, only there wouldnt be an easy solution. That's the only thing I can see that would band humanity together in order to further the survival of mankind.

Its amazing, that for how advanced we are - you take a step back and we're still just a bunch of feuding chimpanzees.

BV
 
We wont make it to the invasion, why would an alien want to come to a acidic poisonous planet we are creating. elevating co2 levels, dying coral reefs, melting ice caps, extinction, corruption, greed, oil driven wars, religous bantering. why are we all so concerned with whos right, whos wrong, whos smarter, whos got more money. were ruining our planet and the moment in history, when the last turn for evil occured is when bush stole the election from gore and he sent everyoine on a murder mission for oil money at the cost of american, iraqi, afghani, canadian lives. then he was reelected. now im making some strong suggestinos but what is there to prove otherwise. I so nothing but evidence bush doesnt care that aremica produces 30%o fthe worlds co2 emmisions, majority of garbage, causing record warmth, death, storms, and all for what terrosist threat? there are alot of factors in the earths demise but its not reason to perpetuate it on a icreasingly concerning scale. I dont know if this is the place for this and i have no intent on insulting, just need some accountability and a reason to change instead of the oh, this is ok, this is normal, how do you know for sure, wake up people of earth including me.
 
bpmartyr said:
The world in 2007

This hatred within the Arab world is in turn the product of a culture that values face-saving over truth-telling.

Western Europe is disappearing demographically and culturally.



One society stands opposed to all these developments -- the United States of America.

Tragically, truthfully beautiful.

this article states the very true statement of how societies (more specifically industrialized white societies) values "face saving over truth telling." that small statement which is so very true, is one of the biggest causes of the problems today but yet, from my interpretation, it states that america is the "One society stands opposed to all these developments", i have to disagree with that. western europe is failing because of this so called need to save face and the united states is not too far behind it.

then you have crazy liberal hippies who praise western europe and all its jaded glory, and make all the sheeples (people + sheep/aka mindless followers ) of the united states believe it. when you really look at everything america is slowly but surely becoming europe, and people are all upset but cant see that the these same changes or "revolutions" that they are so upset about are those same standards, situations, or ideals that the western european government which they praise so highly of.
 
We wont make it to the invasion, why would an alien want to come to a acidic poisonous planet we are creating. elevating co2 levels, dying coral reefs, melting ice caps, extinction, corruption, greed, oil driven wars, religous bantering. why are we all so concerned with whos right, whos wrong, whos smarter, whos got more money. were ruining our planet and the moment in history, when the last turn for evil occured is when bush stole the election from gore and he sent everyoine on a murder mission for oil money at the cost of american, iraqi, afghani, canadian lives. then he was reelected. now im making some strong suggestinos but what is there to prove otherwise. I so nothing but evidence bush doesnt care that aremica produces 30%o fthe worlds co2 emmisions, majority of garbage, causing record warmth, death, storms, and all for what terrosist threat? there are alot of factors in the earths demise but its not reason to perpetuate it on a icreasingly concerning scale. I dont know if this is the place for this and i have no intent on insulting, just need some accountability and a reason to change instead of the oh, this is ok, this is normal, how do you know for sure, wake up people of earth including me.

Well, humans want to go to Mars eventually, and that's a barren wasteland. Earth is still pretty nice comparitively speaking...:) Mankind has had to deal with species-wide threats before in the past, and we came out of it. It'll lhappen again - maybe it will be from a crazy disease, meteor, alien smackdown, whatever. How and if we deal with it will test our mettle and hopefully make us a better species in the long run.

BV
 
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