WANT to avoid TRT

[aronaronaron]

Yeah im thinking the same mate, have you got an email address or you on facebook mate so i can keep in touch, beacause one of us might find the root cause of this shiitty problem and we help each other out. Drop me PM if you have mate.

 

[darkblue1]

you are allright.You are not low in testosterone. Dont spoil your body with TRT. I was low T 2 years back (224) below minimum,still; I had a kid (healthy and active). After visiting this forum I started Androgel , used for one month,then stopped. I used Test -Cyp also for one month. Then I stopped it. They did not give any positive results to me. Now I am very happy and have very good libido (24*7) and lot of energy. Low testosterone is all BS.Trust endocronologists.They know better than us.When my Urologist said I am fine I did not believe him .But he was right. You can check all my posts in 2008. Change your life style and eating habits.My endo wanted to take Pitutary MRI.I did take it.But there was nothing wrong with it.
So stop worrying and eat healthy food no fatty foods.
I have bilateral varicocele and small testicles, varicocele is not the cause for low libido. I am the living proof.

Low Testosterone Running Out of Options WANT to avoid TRT
This is quite a bit of information but I will try to keep it brief.
21 year old, good shape, 6’2’’, 200 pounds, reasonable muscle tone
No history of steroid use – so I’m not trying to restart my system in this sense
Have had many testosterone tests, values ranged between:
290-397 in a ‘normal’ range of 330 to 850
Free Testosterone values:
(8, 8, 9, 11.5) in a ‘normal’ range of 9 to 25
LH values always low I believe a 3 or so in a normal range of 2 to 14
SHBG a level of 16 in a normal range of 13-70 (My doctor told me being low here was a good thing)

History:
- Had varicocele since at least 14 or 15 on my left testicle
- March 4th surgery for varicocele in hopes that removing the (Grade III) varicocele could boost my testosterone levels. My doctor said if my testosterone values were to increase they would increase probably within 90 days. Through ultrasound the varicocele has been confirmed gone.
- I have had testosterone tests every month since the surgery, and well there has not been an increase yet (except for that freak 11.5 free value…then a month later went back down to 9).
- Over the last year or so I have developed near impotency…previously (16-19 years old) I did not have problems, and frankly this is one thing I can’t deal with. I will do anything to fix this problem.
(Quick Bull **** detector question: I had surgery on my left nut, but now my right nut hurts pretty bad, my doctor says that it is probably testicular growing pains—my right nut which didn’t have the varicocele is growing due to better blood circulation???? Possible or bs???)

I am desperate to avoid TRT but if it comes to it I would rather do it than be impotent. This problem has ruined by sex life and really hurt a serious relationship  that’s now over. I’m sure other guys can relate my confidence is gone and its so depressing.

I’m really confused on the possibility of options such as HCG, and clomid. Are they only temporary solutions to a higher testosterone level? Or could they give me a permanently higher testosterone level. Since I have not done steroids before, after taking these drugs would I definitely eventually just go back down to my ‘natural’ current level? How long can drugs like hcg and clomid be taken for? Are they dangerous,I heard with clomid guys can develop breasts. Can these drugs jump start a system even if it wasn’t shut down by steroids ever?
In short I’m getting near the end of the road, and will try any option that would avoid trt. Do I have any left?

 

[bomb402]

I would try a product called MoodMax by this Dr. Lin guy you can easily find on the net. It sounds like your problem might just be blood flow. You can easily castrate an animal just by reducing its circulation. If your levels do not rise after like two weeks on that I would say judging by how you feel you need the cream. By the way, to the poster above, one needs to eat lots of saturated fat to raise testosterone. If you didn't get any positive results from Androgel or Cyp I'd say you didn't have a T problem. Many people on here have perfect everything and still levels of a 75 year old man including me.