It would have to be double dosed to have anywhere near acceptable dosings, and then it's just expensive. It's a 9g prop blend. Cit mal I believe should be dosed at 6-8g alone, which I would say for a pre should be at least 3-4g per serving. AAKG is pretty much useless. I'm curious as to why taurine is listed as the first ingredient, because that's not something I ever remember seeing before in a pre.