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ViSalus.....just venting here

found an interesting article and comment which i agree with 100%

Just go to the site and you will see that it says, "all natural." That's not a true statement. Look at the ingredients very carefully and you will see for example, the Pine Bark Extract is only 7 mg. That's ridiculous amount. The inventor of that product recommends a minimum of 300 mg. per day for the average size person.

The list of "Other Ingredients:" Kosher Gelatin, Glycerin, Soybean Oil, Titanium Dioxide, Pharmaceutical Glaze, Magnesium Stearate, Rice Powder, Dicalcium Phosphate and Water.

Gelatin comes from cow hooves; I'm not sure how you get Kosher Gelatin? Does the Rabbi bless it as they cut the hooves off the cows? Glycerin inhibits the absorption of nutrients. Many capsules are made of this and it has been shown that much of the nutrients in gelatin capsules never get absorbed in the body because the gelatin makes a barrier that won't allow the absorption.

Soybean oil is genetically engineered and creates lots of problems for the body. It inhibits the absorption of minerals, especially iron (over 50%) and is loaded with goitrogens that cause the thyroid to slow down and even the drug manufacturers tell you not to use ANY soy when taking Synthroid because it interferes with the action of the drug; it's that potent of a problem.

Titanium Dioxide is white paint. Go to your local arts and crafts store and ask them to show you a tube of white oil paint. Look at the ingredient, "Titanium Dioxide." Bingo.

Pharmaceutical glaze? What is that? I've never heard of a natural product called that?

Magnesium Stearate --- Now this is a really good one! Total up the total milligrams in the pill. In their multi-vitamin and mineral pill, they have 4669.8247 milligrams of chemicals in it. Multiply .05 x 4,669.8247 milligrams and that will give you the approximate total amount of magnesium stearate it contains. It is: 233.49 milligrams in each pill.

Each one of the so called "super charged antioxidants" contain 355 milligrams of the TRANS FAT - Magnesium Stearate.

The anti aging pill contains: 39.5 milligrams of TRANS FAT.

The Omega vitals contain: 80.21 milligrams of TRANS FAT.

So, if you take just one pill each of the garbage, you will get a total of: 708.2 milligrams of TRANS FAT each time you took them! This chemical is an immune suppressant.

Magnesium Stearate is a "TRANS FAT." It inhibits the absorption of nutrients up to 80%. It is not put in the pill for your health, it is to make pill making easier for them. Each one of these pills also has a talc residue on them if they use standard pill making machinery; this is a known carcinogen. And each pill is subjected to 20,000 psi pressure to squeeze the pills into a form. This high pressure generates a lot of heat that alters the pill contents.

The rice powder is most likely a filler and made from the low grade waste in milling rice.

Dicalcium phosphate is a tableting agent. It's an inorganic substance that was never alive and is just a chemical activator.

Water. It doesn't say what kind of water or where they got it. Tap water? Is it purified? Don't you think that if they went to the trouble of purifying it they would want to brag about that?

They claim this product is all natural, but that statement is obviously not true when you look at the excipient ingredients listed above with the explanations.

I suggest, unless they specifically tell you the origin of each of the ingredients, they are just synthetic vitamins. Synthetic Vitamins are not vitamins, they are chemical activators that have some of the characteristics of true, natural vitamins you find in nature. However, nature does not make just one vitamin that stands alone, it always comes in a package of cofactors and other nutrients that support it's functions. In fact, synthetic vitamins when photographed in Kirlian photograph's show very little light emissions, where as natural vitamins show huge bursts of light, indicating high energy values.

Additionally, the single chemical activators listed are not clearly specified as to their origins. A good example of this is the Thiamine (B-1). The synthetic origin of this is no doubt, coal tar.

When you take an individual chemical activator without it's cofactors, the body has to give up nutrients to the make up the matrix for it to be absorbed. This depletes the body of these nutrients!

What has now been proven, to put the nail in this coffin, is that synthetic vitamins only help you a little at first, but then damage your DNA. Multi-vitamins have been shown to shorten your life, not extend it. People who take multi-vitamins live about 5% less time than those who don't! When you damage DNA, the cells die prematurely and so you won't live as long.

Look at all the synthetic vitamins they are putting into foods trying to make people think they are doing some good for them! Why not grow nutritious food that contains all the good nutrients instead of loading them up with garbage that shorten's people's lives? Profit over health. Simple economics.

The answer is obvious, this Vi-Pak is total garbage. I would not even flush them down a toilet for fear of contaminating fish. I would suggest taking them to a hazardous waste dump.



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Just downed my monster and my vis coleslaw or what ever and I'm about to
Go lift!
 
Why are you all coming at me on this i have not said that this product will give you 20 in 90. I am just saying the product is a good product. I used it and lost 30 and have put on some once i started to lift again. I have jacked up shoulders from my time in the USMC. I had trouble working out period for about 3 years and now after using this i feel better than i have in years and it has allowed me to slowly get back in to the gym. so if it has done this for me how can it be a scam, a joke whatever you want to call it. I would think that if it has done this then it has done its job. and over priced? i get mine for free so does my wife and 27 people under us. We both drive BMW's that are paid for by the company that is ours to keep forever. I have yet to have anyone under me or my wife complain about the price and yes i have 2 guys that are huge in wroking out and 1 has his degree in sports science so you would think he knows a little something about the subject. but you guys here just love jumping on something and throwing it under the bus if you dont like it yourself. oh and ya go look at all the pro athletes that are using it as well as bodybuilders (pro) and fitness models. I know I know you guys know more about it than they do and they are all stupid and dont know what they are doing i totally forgot you guys here are the only smart fu**ers in this area. Have a good one Jack a@@es
 
Why are you all coming at me on this i have not said that this product will give you 20 in 90. I am just saying the product is a good product. I used it and lost 30 and have put on some once i started to lift again. I have jacked up shoulders from my time in the USMC. I had trouble working out period for about 3 years and now after using this i feel better than i have in years and it has allowed me to slowly get back in to the gym. so if it has done this for me how can it be a scam, a joke whatever you want to call it. I would think that if it has done this then it has done its job. and over priced? i get mine for free so does my wife and 27 people under us. We both drive BMW's that are paid for by the company that is ours to keep forever. I have yet to have anyone under me or my wife complain about the price and yes i have 2 guys that are huge in wroking out and 1 has his degree in sports science so you would think he knows a little something about the subject. but you guys here just love jumping on something and throwing it under the bus if you dont like it yourself. oh and ya go look at all the pro athletes that are using it as well as bodybuilders (pro) and fitness models. I know I know you guys know more about it than they do and they are all stupid and dont know what they are doing i totally forgot you guys here are the only smart fu**ers in this area. Have a good one Jack a@@es

ok, give me one reason why this is so good. it doesnt even have to be a good reason. if i make a whey protein shake that is better for you and cheaper in place of a meal, of course i will lose weight. and soy protein, which is what visalus is, is terrible. increases estrogen and all kinds of stuff. why would i want that? and its only 12 g and its like 50 bucks for 30 days?! gimme a break man.

and the BMWs are yours forever. if Visalus goes broke or they are done, the payments get sent to you. they pay for it as long as you bring them money. they dont get money by people purchasing Visalus. They get money by people like you wanting to be sellers of it. you sell alot, they reward you. thats how it works. and your gonna tell me pro bodybuilders take this? yeah....ok. only if they are sponsored by it. i promise you if Visalus isnt paying them, they wouldnt even feed this crap to there fish. they are swole because of steroids and a good diet and training. not 12 grams of soy protein.
 
maybe you can hook up with Visalus? no more free agent status, and you can make your own Visalus threads, and even have a Visalus sig....solves ALL the problems...and don't forget the Visalus bottle in your avatar box.....
 
Hey guys ive been using visalus for 2 months and made gains gains similar to being on cycle. PM me for more information and discounts!!
 
Hey guys ive been using visalus for 2 months and made gains gains similar to being on cycle. PM me for more information and discounts!!

I didn't gain much muscle in my 2 months on Visalus....but my dick got bigger. So it was money swell spent in the end. Next time I'll probably use some sort of PH or designer stacked with Visalus to get me some muscles to go along with my penis enlargement.
 
I didn't gain much muscle in my 2 months on Visalus....but my dick got bigger. So it was money swell spent in the end. Next time I'll probably use some sort of PH or designer stacked with Visalus to get me some muscles to go along with my penis enlargement.

You know what, now that u mention it my gf has complained about me being too big (white girls...) for her. And yea we should stack it! What do u wana stack it with?
 
You know what, now that u mention it my gf has complained about me being too big (white girls...) for her. And yea we should stack it! What do u wana stack it with?

not to be a kiss-ass or nothin'.....but probably trenavar LOL....used trenazone and would like to try trenavar....would stack PERFECT with Visalus! :D
 
not to be a kiss-ass or nothin'.....but probably trenavar LOL....used trenazone and would like to try trenavar....would stack PERFECT with Visalus! :D

On the real, I have 2 packs of trenavar, a bag of ment, and a bottle of superdrol giving me the death glare right now. I feel so compelled to start eating them
 
On the real, I have 2 packs of trenavar, a bag of ment, and a bottle of superdrol giving me the death glare right now. I feel so compelled to start eating them

I just got off of about 18 weeks on this or that (most of the time just one PH at a time)....I'm actually so happy to be on PCT and "natural stuff" (except clomid of course). the sides get to be too much over an extended period, and they really start to get to you....never thought I'd have looked forward to PCT/off time/non-suppressive stuff :D.......
 
........that being said, if it involves my dick getting even bigger than it already is.......I'm all in, and I'll suffer a few more months :D.....
 
I'll stack it with d-pol & dymethaberry!
 
I just got off of about 18 weeks on this or that (most of the time just one PH at a time)....I'm actually so happy to be on PCT and "natural stuff" (except clomid of course). the sides get to be too much over an extended period, and they really start to get to you....never thought I'd have looked forward to PCT/off time/non-suppressive stuff :D.......


Wow long cycle. Did u use any hcg? How were ur gains being on so long?
 
Wow long cycle. Did u use any hcg? How were ur gains being on so long?

it was only 7 weeks of AHv3 solo (for the most part 4 caps a day only), followed by 6 weeks epi solo, then an actual cycle of 6 weeks with trenazone/Ahv3/Pstanz/Dermacrine. Nothing terribly drastic....I'll just do PCT plus 3 more months of non-suppressive stuff/natural stuff. But I went overboard with cals on the Ahv3 in the beginning at ~3K per day, I sort of did almost a maintenance diet with the epi (recomp essentially), then FINALLY I figured out I had to drop my cals to around 1500-1800 in order to actually lose considerably amounts of fat. so the final 6 weeks was actual cutting lol. Overall I was pleased with the results....just should have been more low cal cutting involved....but plenty of time for that post-PCT.....now I know I have to go retardedly low on cals to cut at this point......lesson learned....
 
it was only 7 weeks of AHv3 solo (for the most part 4 caps a day only), followed by 6 weeks epi solo, then an actual cycle of 6 weeks with trenazone/Ahv3/Pstanz/Dermacrine. Nothing terribly drastic....I'll just do PCT plus 3 more months of non-suppressive stuff/natural stuff. But I went overboard with cals on the Ahv3 in the beginning at ~3K per day, I sort of did almost a maintenance diet with the epi (recomp essentially), then FINALLY I figured out I had to drop my cals to around 1500-1800 in order to actually lose considerably amounts of fat. so the final 6 weeks was actual cutting lol. Overall I was pleased with the results....just should have been more low cal cutting involved....but plenty of time for that post-PCT.....now I know I have to go retardedly low on cals to cut at this point......lesson learned....


Im the same way, 1500 cals to cut. It sucks
 
I have a few friends who work for ViSalus....they dont know really anything about supplements, just workout. For those who dont know, its like meal replacement shakes...etc and the owner claimed to gain 20 pounds of PURE muscle in 3 months off his stuff and my friend is taking the challenge and claims to be up 7 pounds and 3 weeks..... i know, i was LOL when he said it is possible. what do you guys think? have any of you heard of it?

Dude, 90% of the industry is based around absurd marketing. I see ads on facebook all the time from random companies advertising for "revolutionary muscle breakthrough! natural herbal supplement helps bodybuilder back on 30 lbs of LEAN MASS overnight!"

The companies that post here are trying to capture a particular demographic and that is...people who kind of know what they're talking about. They tend to shy away from marketing that is tantamount to slapping science in the face with their ****s. Even though some companies here exaggerate and embellish a bit, it's nothing compared to the supp companies that target the general population. I can't tell you how many dudes have come up to me at my gym asking me stuff like "I heard taking acai will get you super ripped bro. Is it true?".
 
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