vikinginc
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Hahaha, unemployed, huh !? What's next on your schedule ? Decided on your next Arsenal ?
vikinginc’s Twisted PCT/Re-comp Extravaganza
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Hahaha, unemployed, huh !? What's next on your schedule ? Decided on your next Arsenal ?
poopypants
Banned
lol like the metaphors there, too funny.
Thank goodness to Bush signing the unemployment extension part duex... will soon be getting a steady check again, too bad still not in time to save my place.
Obama is already workin hard on congress to get a HUGE stimulus program going for next year.... not a fan of taking money from hard working upper middle class folks BUT i am one of the guys that feel like I deserve a break, not just some schmo living off the man and abusing the system, I literally had my job field take a dive with the housing hit. No one wants an alarm installed unless they got a brand new house with nice things to protect or they just got broke into.
N-E-WAYZ..... wheres the greenage stories Viking? havnt heard one for a bit... anymore stupid hoesbeasts talkin ish that need a good backhand?
OHOHOH, did you see the ingredients for X-dreams were released in the testers thread??? mmmmmhhmmmm good stuff. They should get shipped out tomorrow (tues) or the next.
thundergod
Well-known member
This about sums it up doesn't it?! I'm guessing you like this routine. Ja? I knew you would once you gave it a spin. I like how you have personalized it like I did. That's what's so great about it. You can think outside the box. I thought my routine was a far cry from a normal DC routine. But yours is even more modified. I love it!! I'm constantly giving mine new twists. I've thrown in a few pre-exhaustion sets over the last week. I haven't done those since I was training HIT Mentzer style about 8 or 9 years ago. I'm loving returning to those old techniques like heavy slow negatives, partials, static holds, pre-exhaust sets, drop sets, and of course the rest-pauses!! Why do "normal" routines, since you and I are definitely not normal??!! ha ha We must have that insane intensity. It must be written in our Nordic genetic code or something. The Berzerker Syndrome!! :aargh:
vikinginc
Well-known member
Hahah, I had a little break for a couple of days . . cooled down a little bit, focused on my final exams before Thanksgiving. But there'll be more without a doubt ! Hopefully tonight .. as I know there'll be some greenage in my system then !
.. and yes, sir, saw the ingredient profile, and I'm stoked to be trying out X-Dreams !!
vikinginc
Well-known member
Bro, once again, i've gotta give you praise for my inspiration ! I ready you workouts, and kept thinking, dude, what is Thunder doing here !? .. Now I know, you're taking it to a whole other level ! No more 'up-and-down/up-and-down' action on the bench press; that $hit can be made a whole helluva lot more complicated and give a pump like never imagined ! Dude, the modification .. I can do anything I want to do in there; and every time I think of something new. I've got legs coming up today (granted my stomach keeps intact as it is now, and I don't get any digestion issues), and I have NO idea how to approach it just yet. . I'm thinking rest/pause sets on squats, widowmakers on the smith squats, one-legged horizontal leg presses performed in some nasty-a$$ manner .. Man, I don't know what I'm doing, but tonight's gonna be F*CKING crazy !
Irish Cannon
Legend
Speaking of exams, my prof totally screwed me over today. I'm having a very hard time calming down.
VolcomX311
Legend
?Que Paso?
Irish Cannon
Legend
Long story short, I got a bad grade on a paper and now my class-grade is on the edge.
Among other things I don't understand, this paper was a rough draft (we have four grades: Paper Topic Outline, Annotated Bibliography, Rough Draft, Final Paper). Tell me which one of those should count for the most points? The final, right? Well apparently she doesn't think so. The rough draft counts for about twice as much as the final.
W...T...F?!
The only purpose of a RD is so that you can get feedback on what needs to be fixed so that the final is perfect.
vikinginc
Well-known member
Just another example of professors being 'above you' and can do anything they please. I hate it when they take it that far, but I can't say it's unheard of.
.. perhaps the prof noticed only 1/2 the class finished the rough draft ON TIME, and therefor wanted to make it as impacting on everyone's grade as it possibly could be?
.. I'd be pissed off, too, my friend .. I had to drop 6 out of 12 hours this semester following two professors not cooperating with me to do the necessary make-up work when I missed 3 consecutive weeks of classes due to my oral surgery. Professors can do pretty much what they want, and depending on the school and also the kinds of classes, they're leniency varies greatly ..
vikinginc
Well-known member
Que Paso !? I'll tell you what's up, Samuel; we're all wondering what you're doing next ! What's your battle plan ? What's your next goal ?
hman85
Well-known member
I feel you guys on this subject I have to retake my chem lab. The teacher made us rewrite our whole lab notebook into a comp book word for word like 500 written pages. I missed a 2 days in a row and she said just to finish it and show her it when i was done she said it didn't matter when as long as I got it done before the end of the semester. Then whe i go to show her some of it she tells me that I took too long and I am going to fail. Stupid b!tch!!! Why the hell do we habve to buy a book if we are going to rewrite it allover into another book. She is also the stupid kind that she will be up there teaching and then someone in the class will say hey isn't that wrong and she says oh oops ! The problem is she does this abvout 5 times a class no wonder I do bad in her class everything she teaches us isn't right:frustrate
bigbird101
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vikinginc
Well-known member
WTF ?!?!
poopypants
Banned
LMFAO... thats my old workout partner... my guess is hes tryin to sub to the thread.
BTW when you gonna have up a new Avi Vik???
BTW when you gonna have up a new Avi Vik???
vikinginc
Well-known member
Lol, it'll be up in time, my friend ! Won't be in the condition in which I'm in at the moment, but surely, I'll get one up there sooner that later ! LOL
vikinginc
Well-known member
Day #28 of PCT:
Leg day, Baby !
Barbell Squats
Warm up: 135 * 15, 185 * 12, 225 * 10, 275 * 10
DC-set: 275 * 10 reps -> 15 deep breaths -> 275 * 8 reps -> 15 deep breaths -> 275 * 6 reps -> 15 deep breaths -> 225 * 6 reps -> 15 deep breaths -> 135 * 10 reps -> 15 deep breaths -> 135 * 10 reps -> 15 deep breaths -> 135 * 10 reps
Leg Extensions
Warm up: 90 * 20
Drop sets:
1.) 150 * 15 -> 120 * 12 -> 75 * 12
2.) 150 * 12 -> 120 * 12 -> 75 * 12
Leg Curls (21s)
Warm up: 100 * 15 reps
Working sets: 150 * 7/7/7/, 150 * 7/7/7, 150 * 7/7/7
Weight - 225 lbs.
- Not ashamed to say it; I spilt my guts time and time again upon completion. I swear, me and my workout buddy for the day (my old workout buddy of a year) had a F*cking audience @ the gym. People were looking at us with the 'WTF' kind of look. Priceless. Never felt better. God damn !
Leg day, Baby !
Barbell Squats
Warm up: 135 * 15, 185 * 12, 225 * 10, 275 * 10
DC-set: 275 * 10 reps -> 15 deep breaths -> 275 * 8 reps -> 15 deep breaths -> 275 * 6 reps -> 15 deep breaths -> 225 * 6 reps -> 15 deep breaths -> 135 * 10 reps -> 15 deep breaths -> 135 * 10 reps -> 15 deep breaths -> 135 * 10 reps
Leg Extensions
Warm up: 90 * 20
Drop sets:
1.) 150 * 15 -> 120 * 12 -> 75 * 12
2.) 150 * 12 -> 120 * 12 -> 75 * 12
Leg Curls (21s)
Warm up: 100 * 15 reps
Working sets: 150 * 7/7/7/, 150 * 7/7/7, 150 * 7/7/7
Weight - 225 lbs.
- Not ashamed to say it; I spilt my guts time and time again upon completion. I swear, me and my workout buddy for the day (my old workout buddy of a year) had a F*cking audience @ the gym. People were looking at us with the 'WTF' kind of look. Priceless. Never felt better. God damn !
thundergod
Well-known member
Just the kind of mental/emotional fuel I was looking for to gas up my early morning workout with!! :woohoo: Danke Viking!!
vikinginc
Well-known member
F*CK YES, MY NORDIC BROTHER ! Glad my workout was of inspiration to you ! .. I had NO idea how that session was gonna go down .. I ran into my old workout buddy, and he had just finished doing squats (he went up to 455 for his squat session), and told me he wanted to do them DC-style with me, as he had NO idea what was up with that. In NON-stop fashion, I'd go, rack the bar, he'd go, rack the bar, I'd go, rack the bar, he'd go . . . and so on . . so in between each set was a mere 20-30 seconds. God damn, those final three sets with 135 for 10 haven't hurt that much since freshman year of high school !
vikinginc
Well-known member
Day #29 of PCT:
AM-cardio:
- 40 minute walk outdoors
- 10 minutes abs immidiately following
.. for having woke up with a mild hangover, I did pretty damn good. A little out of it now, and I'll more than likely skip my ONE class for the day, rent a movie or two - Tropic THunder - and cook good, healthy good and watch good movies untill this evening's session . . . I'll have a good day of 'recovery' . .
AM-cardio:
- 40 minute walk outdoors
- 10 minutes abs immidiately following
.. for having woke up with a mild hangover, I did pretty damn good. A little out of it now, and I'll more than likely skip my ONE class for the day, rent a movie or two - Tropic THunder - and cook good, healthy good and watch good movies untill this evening's session . . . I'll have a good day of 'recovery' . .
Irish Cannon
Legend
Those are always humbling sets. It's funny how you can crank out heavy set after heavy set, yet that very last set with a super low weight is what makes you extensively sore.
I don't know if I thanked you by the way for getting me to do machine squats again. I worked quads on Friday, and my legs/glutes are still crushed.
thundergod
Well-known member
BY the way viking, I also up-chucked at the ass-end of my leg session last Friday. I just didn't mention it in my log. But even a Norse diety can toss his cookies after widowmakers!! ha ha I've been throwing in some pre-exhaust sets and tri-sets on different exercises these last few weeks. I haven't done some of this stuff in years. I'm lovin' it! I can't get enough of this intensity/insanity!!! Try doing some pec-deck flyes before right before hitting a set of Bench Presses. Or leg extensions right before a set of squats. Or side laterals right before a set of shoulder presses. You get the idea!! I'm just getting excited here. LMAO
Irish Cannon
Legend
The last time I puked was at my old gym. I went outside and threw up all over the sidewalk. To this day it's still stained. Haha!
vikinginc
Well-known member
Ohhh hell yes ! I feel ya there, Thunder, and I'll make sure to add the side laterals to my seated presses in this evening's work out ! .. god damn, it's gonna hurt ! But like you say; bring the pain !!!
hman85
Well-known member
Pretty funny movie , I laughed my a$$ off at jack black and his "jelly beans" (or was it candy? not sure but youll know what I am talking about)
snagency
Banned
This brought to mind a puking story. About 8-10 yrs. ago, there was this GHB product called Zen that I used to play around with (speaking of fun times..), and the all-out kind of guy that I am, I went to excess more than a few times with it (i.e. passing the hell out). One time I spent the afternoon at a buds, we were getting all g'ed out all day long, then I had to drive home.. not even gonna mention the 2x I fell asleep at stop lights during that trip (one dude behind me actually had to get out of his car and beat on my window to wake me up).. well I'm almost home, and I feel the nausea creeping up on me (side-effect of overdoing it), and I'm thinking I'm not gonna make it, gonna spew in my car.. but thank God, I make it home, not a minute too soon.. I hop out and just have enough time to turn my head and barf all over my yard. The puke from this stuff was a bright, fluorescent yellow, and it just came out in projectile force. (sidenote: after I get done, I happen to look across the street, my neighbor lady was sitting on her porch with her little girl, watching me the whole time.. oh what she musta been thinking..)
Anyway, this patch of lawn that I spewed on turned brown & died like almost immediately, and I had to re-sod some grass that fall cuz it never came back. Zen was some crazy sh!t for sure..
russianstar
Well-known member
Awesome bro...You pushed your body to the limit and your stomach told you so, well done again, really great to see people busting their a$$ in the gym, good weights too, DC training rocks, cant wait to start back on it again, just 11 days for me, i love it so much i do a countdown!!!
VolcomX311
Legend
At the peak of my HIT days, my partner and I would do sort of the reverse, rather then isolated pre-exhaust to compound, we went compound to isolated muscle failure. 270lbs Hammer Shoulder Press, right into 50lbs Db's Side Laterals and 40lbs Db's Front raises. The goal was 10/10/10 rest-pause.
VolcomX311
Legend
Time for the nipple piercings.
thundergod
Well-known member
I've done it that way too. Compound to isolation. I'm officially reviving HIT around here these days!!! The Mentzer brothers would be so proud. R.I.P. Mike and Ray. You guys are sorely missed. :box:
VolcomX311
Legend
The next reasonable progression is to upgrade my strength foundation, maintaining my reps around the 10-6 maybe 5 rep range. I've been in hypertrophy for months on end now, but I'm not completely sure yet. I don't know what supplements I should run. I am really interested in PRIME and although I am convinced that PRIME is a legitimate product, based on reliable reports such as TG's, however, I am also convinced that PRIME is a major hit or miss product, based on other members whom I consider reputable. A lot of USPLabs products seem to be hit or miss, they either work wonders or they're sugar pills.
I was a neutral responder to Anabolic Pump and I ran AP for 5 or 6 bottles straight. By neutral I mean, I didn't feel like it did anything extraordinary, but I also didn't feel like it wasn't doing anything. I think it was my inherent fear of carbs that kept me on AP for so long.
VolcomX311
Legend
Sam, I think Prime would be perfect for you. I'd like to see you put it to the test. The big drawback for me was not wanting to take a day off & overtraining, but this seems to be right up your alley.
I am very, very interested in PRIME, and Winter is when I traditionally lift for strength. Mind clock ticking away...
vikinginc
Well-known member
Hahaha, thanks for sharing, bro ! That had me cracking up from beginning to end ! .. Too bad I'm one generation (or two) behind the GHB hype. :frustrate
vikinginc
Well-known member
I'm digging that method as well . . it actually makes a little more sense to me than pre-exhaust, as you'd be focusing on the compound movements and then ease into the finer isolation exercises.
Brutal strength on ya there, Samuel ! 3 plates/side on Hammer right into 50s for laterals right into 40s for front raises ?! I just got exhausted reading that ! .. and how many sets did you do ? One time through ? Or a couple of these triset/rest-pauses ?
.. and nipple piercing? No, sir! I went through my piercing-era in high school/freshman year of college. Two in the tongue (one in front of the other; girlfriend loved me for it .. enough said), labret twice (1st time in high school; pops saw it, and said; you're either outta my house by the morning, or you take out the piercing and stay) and eyebrow once (done @ home).
vikinginc
Well-known member
.. same here. Never found AP to do much magical. I will never buy again, as I went through two bottles of sugar pills this past summer, and finishing up the bottle Mullet provided me with 6 weeks back. Nothing extraordinary . . not worth the $ in my opinon, as it seems I'd need to double dose it for [full/potential] effects.
.. but PRIME . . Thunder, mad respect for you, but I am not about to jump the bandwagon and go with PRIME. Honestly, just flipping open FLEX/Muscular Development and seeing the two page spread on the Asteroid Stack makes me want to tear the magazine apart . . seeing a thread both here and on bb.com that says 'here's what people say about PRIME' is just too much. WHY THE HYPE !? WHY ALL THE USPLABS ALL OVER ?! I DON'T GET IT ! [No offense to you either, Snag!] .. Claims are downright outrageous, and a certain someone in here [caugh, Andrew, caugh] claims a 45 lbs gain on his bench press in 18 days of usage, but wouldn't provide his before and after max #s, nor his diet, nor pics, nor anything. Now, got to be honest, reading those entries was what had me enraged initially .. and then NONE of the USPlabs reps commented on this thread, second-guessing it . . but instead kept reinforcing that 'these claims are apparently TRUE' and yada yada yada ..
.. However, if I were to trust anyone in here, it'd be Snag and Volcom (and also Thunder, of course, but bare with me) .. If either of them ran PRIME by itself, I'd listen to the results. I know Volcom would've done it completely unbiased and run it by itself, which, imho, is the best way to asses its potential effects. Snag, you might run it with other USPlabs products (AP, Pslin, etc), so I feel those results might be a little more biased, but I know that you know your body, diet and training well enough, and have used Pslin and AP for long enough to know how those feel on/in your body, so I'd trust your additional notes had you added PRIME to that. It's not that I don't trust Thunder, but he was coming OFF-cycle, with a PCT he had ran before, already at a lower bodyfat % than last PCT around, more than likely adjusted his diet in a different way compared to last time he ran the identical PCT, and hence, some of the vascularity/hardness would've simply been easier to notice whether PRIME was included or not. It's a theory, yes, but I'm gonna remain the 'underdog' who doesn't buy just yet .. and I'm not posting this because I'm a hater, but due to past troubles with USPlabs products, the unbelievable differences in effects from one user to the next, and so on ..
[I believe I explained myself good enough here .. I trust Thunder, for sure, mad respect as always, but I'm not convinced that it was all PRIME that made the difference .. Snag, Mullet, respect for you as well, but I'm just not easily convinced .. Too much sounds too far fetched .. and it kills it for me.]
VolcomX311
Legend
I only did this once, single working set, but my shoulder days would consist of about 3-4 different "single-set" exercises.
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
In terms of biases and so forth, that is not something I take being charged with lightly - I have instructed our reps to stay away from PRIME-threads because they are a powder-keg, so to speak. Each time a comment is made in them it is scrutinized beyond belief (your comments in Andrew's thread are positive evidence of that) and a non-intrusive approach is best for our reps, at the moment.
In respects to me personally, you will be hard pressed to find any other rep, from any other company, who is as objective in his presentation of the physiology of his respective company's products as I am; Ike, though, is equally as objective, if not more so.
Now, in respects to PRIME, I created a thread to address exactly the concerns you are expressing here. Unfortunately, despite the massive amount of a priori conjecture surrounding the product, there has been a disappointing amount of respondents. At any rate, here is the thread. In fact, you will notice TG does not have a post therein. Why? Because I did not send him a link to that particular thread, nor ask him to share his experience; I wish for the results to speak for themselves.
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In respects to me personally, you will be hard pressed to find any other rep, from any other company, who is as objective in his presentation of the physiology of his respective company's products as I am; Ike, though, is equally as objective, if not more so.
Now, in respects to PRIME, I created a thread to address exactly the concerns you are expressing here. Unfortunately, despite the massive amount of a priori conjecture surrounding the product, there has been a disappointing amount of respondents. At any rate, here is the thread. In fact, you will notice TG does not have a post therein. Why? Because I did not send him a link to that particular thread, nor ask him to share his experience; I wish for the results to speak for themselves.
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VolcomX311
Legend
Damn! free Y-rd deal is over! Invalid Link Removed
snagency
Banned
Viking, I'm sensitive to the aforementioned issues you bring up, understand exactly where you're coming from, and appreciate your stance. (No offense taken btw..) Look, I know the print ad you saw, the Asteroid Stack.. some other things that are turning ppl off.. I can relate. Hype does bad things to the industry, and I am not a fan..
That being said, the Asteroid Stack (or the same USP stack that I use) has produced amazing results for sure. And yes, thx for clarifying that I know the results of each individual product. AP was the first USP product I ever used, and I isolated that. Thruout this yr., I have isolated use of each product (except Prime - have always run that in conjunction with everything else). The products work for me, and very well at that. Prime was incredible when I beta-tested it, everything went to a different level. 9 days out from my show in April, I set a PR on incline press, and strength on everything was improved with Prime - despite being on low caloric intake. The residual was high as well, as I was probably the strongest I've ever been in my life the following 2 months after the show, and I was running everything but Prime and Recreate.
Now, Prime hasn't worked as well for me this 2nd time around, but I can still feel it for sure, it's a quality product. I haven't been in the USP forum much lately - for exactly the reasons you state above. There's either too much hype, too much hate, or just plain morons who don't know what the **** they're talking about. Not my kinda scene.
I'm like TG - I'm honest in my assessments, and my only goal is to share, learn, & educate if I can. Can't very well do that if I'm bs'ing about results, my credibility would go down the toilet. More importantly - I gotta look at myself in the mirror everyday, and I try to live my life without having anything to be embarrassed about when I do look in that mirror. So it's important to me that I portray things/events/reviews precisely & accordingly.
It's too bad that the hype has turned you off, shame when that happens. Maybe at some point you'll give Prime a shot.. it'll be waiting for ya!
VolcomX311
Legend
It's this kind of confidence that makes me go out and buy $hit. Thanks, Thomas. I have been considering PRIME lately, maybe if I justify the cost by telling myself it'll be my Christmas gift to myself then I can do it. I know I'll want to run it at a Mullet dose (9 caps), if I do and I'll need 2 bottles for that.
I seem to respond well to supps the general public does not and vice versa. I had tremendous success with Jungelwarfare by ALRI and 3-AD by AX, both of which are on everybody's "suspect supps" list. However, I reached new levels on both. I've never pressed 225lbs on the free bench for 20+ reps in my life, nor have I repeated that level of endurance, which I was doing while on 3-AD. JW made me strong as an OX, but the lethargy kills it for me. PRIME's lack of lethargy and lack of any form of PCT would make it worth it in my book, if I experienced gains similar to JW or 3-AD. The lack of lethargy is worth muchos dineros in mi libro (is libro books in spanglish? I forgot).
I appreciate the suggestion Snag, it didn't fall on def ears.
vikinginc
Well-known member
Volcom, I'm merely speaking the truth. You're a fellow I'm able to rely on fully, and that counts for a lot in my book.
Snagency & Mulletsoldier, I appreciate you guys understanding the 'main message' of my post, and not misinterpreting it as a HATE-post. (Mullet, I'm still a little uncertain how you took it.. but I tried to not sound too harsh in my comments.)
.. Volcom; I hope you'll have a VERY Merry Christmas and hook yourself up with some PRIME
Snagency & Mulletsoldier, I appreciate you guys understanding the 'main message' of my post, and not misinterpreting it as a HATE-post. (Mullet, I'm still a little uncertain how you took it.. but I tried to not sound too harsh in my comments.)
.. Volcom; I hope you'll have a VERY Merry Christmas and hook yourself up with some PRIME
VolcomX311
Legend
I'm just a click away from my purchase, but I'm still contemplating.
VolcomX311
Legend
2 bottles of PRIME purchased! I suppose I'll be hitting up Mullet for some advice in the coming days.
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
I took it as a rational, justified position, but merely cautioned that, to me, being labelled as personally (irrationally) biased is stepping over the line. Everything I have ever said about our products can be verified empirically and, if it cannot, I do not say it!
poopypants
Banned
dude I hear ya on this and your totally inclined to have your own opinion. But dont let the hype kill it for you and prevent you from trying a killer product.
I ran a very detailed log on it, although it WAS with Pslin, I had just been running Pslin for a couple months and also ran a lil 2 week TRN cycle and Torem/Trione transdermal PCT before I started it and then it REALLY picked up when I started Prime... thats saying something.
Well if you feel like it man check my log below in my sig, I ended up gaining 11.5lbs on that run (2 Prime bottles) across 40 some odd days and have detailed lifts week to week comparing each weeks lifts to the ones done the previous week as well as progress pics... those dont lie.
I think with your training style youd dig the HELL outta Prime man. n BTW I know somewhere to find it cheap.
poopypants
Banned
oh ya and cheap is just the start.. I gotta free shipping code there too....
VolcomX311
Legend
DAMN!! 2 posts too late. Oh well, I don't mind giving NP my money I suppose. Reganomics right? Pay the corporations and watch it trickle down, right? No but seriously, damn....
poopypants
Banned
ya I read up, and saw that after I posted up my reply to Vik's post... I was like NOOOOOO VOLCOM!!!!!
Like you said though good to support NP....
Like you said though good to support NP....