VII-KT vs Invictus (fatloss)

[Vitruvian Man]

So I’m prepping a nice fatloss stack for this cut and have read great things about both of these however I don’t want to include both as I feel that’s just too much.

Choosing one or the other what would be your pick? Most info I have seen they’ve been ran together and thus seems hard to comparatively decide which is more effective.

 

[thebigt]

why do you think both is too much?

...i've ran both together several times.

invictus is by far the better if running solo, although i think as a combo is best. but you have free will and get to do as you please-eh?

 

[ValiantThor08]

why do you think both is too much?

...i've ran both together several times.

invictus is by far the better if running solo, although i think as a combo is best. but you have free will and get to do as you please-eh?

I agree with my friend here. Really consider stacking. I enjoyed running both when I did. They compliment each other.

 

[BeardedBreast]

Brand virgin here.

Thanks for the thread!

 

[thebigt]

Brand virgin here.

Thanks for the thread!

thanks for your purchase....remember my code THEBIGT saves 20% off at both iconic formulations AND iron legion.

 

[Vitruvian Man]

why do you think both is too much?

...i've ran both together several times.

invictus is by far the better if running solo, although i think as a combo is best. but you have free will and get to do as you please-eh?

Not that both together are too much just I have like 3 other things I’ll be using and don’t like taking that much **** in conjunction

 

[BeardedBreast]

don’t like taking that much **** in conjunction

I'm such a junky... May die

 

[thebigt]

Not that both together are too much just I have like 3 other things I’ll be using and don’t like taking that much **** in conjunction

ditch the other 3, lol.

 

[thebigt]

I'm such a junky... May die

soon i will be running 11 topicals--seriously running out of real estate

 

[Vitruvian Man]

soon i will be running 11 topicals--seriously running out of real estate

I would be missing doses left and right

 

[thebigt]

I would be missing doses left and right

lol...just started the topical melatonin last night and missed dosing time by 45 minutes...but missing doses won't be my problem-it's where to put it all...i really don't like overlapping 0n same sites but.....

 

[enhanced]

Haha, real world problems.. Running out of application sites for td supps.

 

[thebigt]

Haha, real world problems.. Running out of application sites for td supps.

hey, i worry about stuff i can do something about...

and pray about all the stuff brain dead biden is going to f*ckup

 

[KvanH]

soon i will be running 11 topicals--seriously running out of real estate

Wow, that's a lot. I'm using 4 different td's at the moment, but doing fine with AM & PM applying.

 

[thebigt]

Wow, that's a lot. I'm using 4 different td's at the moment, but doing fine with AM & PM applying.

lol...i've been messing with transdermals for going on 20 years....and i am spending a lot of time planning out my dosing protocol

i guess there are worse problems a person could have

 

[AndroRage]

If one can only afford one, what was the choice of the majority?

 

[thebigt]

If one can only afford one, what was the choice of the majority?

INVICTUS hands down.

 

[Darkhorse192]

100% agree with this

INVICTUS hands down.

 

[AndroRage]

100% agree with this

thanks for the response. Care to elaborate on why? If you can

thanks again

 

[KvanH]

thanks for the response. Care to elaborate on why? If you can

thanks again

I have not used Invictus or any other b-aet product myself (at least yet), so can't speak from experience, but 7-keto lowers cortisol only mildly, but increases T3 levels and thus increases thermogenesis. As Invictus's effect on cortisol will be more pronounced and I guess that leads to bigger impact on fat loss.

 

[BeardedBreast]

I have the 3pack stack also.

I'm just finishing pct.

Where could I run it in relation to my next cycle?

 

[cheftepesh1]

I have the 3pack stack also.

I'm just finishing pct.

Where could I run it in relation to my next cycle?

You can add invictus to your cycle or run it in between to reduce cortisol bounce back.

 

[BeardedBreast]

You can add invictus to your cycle or run it in between to reduce cortisol bounce back.

Can I take the stack at the end of pct, before my next cycle? How hormonal is it?

 

[KvanH]

Can I take the stack at the end of pct, before my next cycle? How hormonal is it?

Are you referring to Invictus+VII-KT stack? If so then cortisol is a hormone by definition, but those products are not hormonal the way you probably meant. Neither one is suppressive to androgen production (by my understanding). So yes you can take them in pct, but I would rather start them in the beginning of pct myself to combat the possible cort rebound, as Chef mentioned.

 

[thebigt]

Are you referring to Invictus+VII-KT stack? If so then cortisol is a hormone by definition, but those products are not hormonal the way you probably meant. Neither one is suppressive to androgen production (by my understanding). So yes you can take them in pct, but I would rather start them in the beginning of pct myself to combat the possible cort rebound, as Chef mentioned.

good answer!!!

 

[cheftepesh1]

Can I take the stack at the end of pct, before my next cycle? How hormonal is it?

As stated they are not super suppressive so I would think you are good. Using at the start of pct would be best.