Verify Dosing - CJC (no DAC) / IPA & IGF 1 LR3

WaverlyIowa

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I recently completed a 3 month cycle of CJC (no DAC) w/ IPA and found it did give a little bump in performance / fat loss week 8-12. I ran 500 mcg of both once a day. I had to take them in the morning as I couldn't sleep when taking them at night.

Question for the experienced members ... This round I'm going to take a four week cycle of IGF 1 LR3 (50 mcg per day) and was thinking of adding CJC (no DAC) w/ IPA as well. Probably going to go with 250 mcg once per day vs 500 mcg done before.

So for the first month I would be taking IGF LR3 (50 mcg) and CJC/IPA (250 mcg). Then month 2 and 3 just CJC/IPA (250 mcg). All pins following the 5 days on / 2 days off method.

Does this dosing make sense for IGF LR3 and CJC (no DAC) / Ipa?

An info is appreciated!
 
im not experienced really, but im running the same stuff as you, so i figure i should atleast try to help. it is my first ever time on anything, and im closing off on the 4 week mark, so im about to stop taking my igf 1 lr3. im taking 20mcg igf 1 lr3 daily post workout, ipamorelin 200mcg 2x daily, and cjc no dac every 3 days at 100mcg. since its my first time im not doing a lot, but ive seen crazy strength and muscle gain compared to being natural. im not an expert, but if i had anything to say, id suggest you not do 50mcg igf if its your first time, and probably go a little lower, maybe 30-40mcg. ive looked into it a good bit and from my knowledge thats what seems reasonable to me. incase you arent also, make sure your fasted when you take cjc and ipa, insulin blocks it
 
Anyone have any info on if IGF-LR3 (since it has insulin like properties ) blocks GH pulse release when using cjc/ ipam similar to endogenous insulin release blocking it ?
 
Rockslide said:
Anyone have any info on if IGF-LR3 (since it has insulin like properties ) blocks GH pulse release when using cjc/ ipam similar to endogenous insulin release blocking it ?
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yeah it blunts gh pulse but not because of its insulin like properties. the igf 1 feeds back on the hypothalamus to shut off gh release. igf 1 lr3 works best right after you workout, and you should take ipamorelin and cjc three or two hours fasted/right when you wake up and give it an hour before you eat again after taking it, so the insulin from food doesnt blunt it. i wouldnt take all at the same time personally since your trading the benefits of atleast one
 
I’m already using cjc and fasting around it appropriately. Never used igf though. Considering trying it and trying to figure out if I need to pause the cjc with it
 
I would just run IGF solo since it's just a 4 or 5 week cycle and it is your first time trying.

I like 50 mcg split bilaterally in the muscle trained that day, right before or right after workout. Prioritize / pin lagging muscle groups. There is an argument for post workout being more effective for growth but pre workout pin will give better pumps. Up your carbs especially around workout during your cycle.

I don't think you 'need' to pause the secretagogue but the gh release interference is enough of a reason to take a month off while you run IGF.
 
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Rockslide said:
I’m already using cjc and fasting around it appropriately. Never used igf though. Considering trying it and trying to figure out if I need to pause the cjc with it
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dont pause your cjc itll work better if its paired with igf because they target two separate things
 
Right. I’m just trying to figure out how to time things. I have been using cjc at bedtime on all days, but on workout days I take half an extra dose PWO and an extra dose before bed unless I have to workout late at night and I just take a double dose. Main annoying thing about cjc/ipam is having to adjust meal around it. Often find myself running out of time in the evenings and having to choose to stay up later than I want just so I can get a before bed protein shake in to try to get enough calories .
 
WaverlyIowa said:
I recently completed a 3 month cycle of CJC (no DAC) w/ IPA and found it did give a little bump in performance / fat loss week 8-12. I ran 500 mcg of both once a day. I had to take them in the morning as I couldn't sleep when taking them at night.

Question for the experienced members ... This round I'm going to take a four week cycle of IGF 1 LR3 (50 mcg per day) and was thinking of adding CJC (no DAC) w/ IPA as well. Probably going to go with 250 mcg once per day vs 500 mcg done before.

So for the first month I would be taking IGF LR3 (50 mcg) and CJC/IPA (250 mcg). Then month 2 and 3 just CJC/IPA (250 mcg). All pins following the 5 days on / 2 days off method.

Does this dosing make sense for IGF LR3 and CJC (no DAC) / Ipa?

An info is appreciated!
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Dropping your CJC/IPA dose down to 250mcg is a smart move, but honestly, even that is a bit high for a single pin. The saturation dose for both of those is usually around 100mcg to 150mcg. When you were pinning 500mcg all at once, you were likely wasting a ton of it, which is exactly why it caused that cortisol spike and wrecked your sleep at night. Your body can only process so much at one time.

As for the new protocol, running the IGF-1 LR3 at 50mcg for just the first 4 weeks is perfect. Receptor downregulation happens very fast with LR3, so anything past 4 weeks usually results in diminishing returns anyway. Running it alongside the CJC/IPA creates great synergy, and the 5 days on / 2 days off schedule is exactly how you should be running this stack to give your pituitary a breather.

The biggest hurdle you'll face is making sure your LR3 is actually real, as it's one of the most faked and underdosed peptides on the market right now. If you need a reliable spot to avoid getting burned, Google 10xmuscle, good people, helped me a lot when I was trying to source legit IGF-1 that actually worked.

If you can, try to split that 250mcg CJC/IPA dose into two separate pins (morning and post-workout). Otherwise, the overall 3-month framework looks extremely solid. Good luck with the cycle!
 
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