Yeah you should be ok,but before starting the retain i would get on the HD a couple of times to get a sense of how you feel,then add the retain,but start with say 1 and then see how it feels and go from there,for some people they don't get the stim affect but still i would start slow,then work your way up.
Yeah Sesamin would be a good addition to the stack you are planning.
I have been using for about a week I agree the with the coments above .I think it may be affecting my sleep,still early to tell .No weight loss yet.Did someone say it helps lower cortisol because I dont :blink: remember reading that?
No that was the other Venom the one with the same ingrediant as Retan,Special tactics,i think.
OK thanx- not a big deal, I heard Its questionable if that ing realy works at all anyway[dhea derivitive]
Retain is 1-adrostentriol,the dhea derivates are in lean extreme and reduce xt.
Viethettw The RETAIN Article here...
I have been on it a week or so and it must be working. I wake up in the morning and stretch and all my joints sound like they are 10000 years old. :jaw:
aha ok , not realy following your point here:blink:
If in fact you do have very little cortisol in your body, the effects on your joints are pretty harsh. SO if your joints are creaking etc. Retain is doing its job, and Spitdeath whats your dosage like?? I have picked some Retain up, just started Mondy running it with Vh3.0, Dicana, and other supps???
I agree the best part of this supplement is its ability to surpress my appetite. I have been on this for approx a week, and the only thing that I have taken in the past that comes close is Meridia.This is the first time I have tried a product from them,keep up the good work.
I personally wouldn't use AMP. I think the two are too closley related. I would opt for a simple EC and Venom for a greater difference in stims. JMO though--
I tried combining Biotek gels (25 mg) with 100 mg caffiene pre-w/o, but I don't get the same kind of rush... maybe I'm not doing it right?
Can you still find Clenbutrx? You might try upping caffiene to 200mgs. Perhaps that will help give you the extra boost you need. Also, I try to come off stims every two weeks after six weeks of alternating products. So 6 on and 2 off.
I would surmise some of it is a vasoconstrictor, but as far as the speedy/ nootropic portion of it is hard to tell. Some men might tolerate it quite well and others not as well.
Yeah, I have a person who still has the old skool Clenbutrx, but like I said, its far more expensive than the E/C stack.
Your saying its alright to have a EC stack say once a day before a workout and be on Venom?
Sorry, no not at all. I would recommend a strategy like one of these 2/2 or 14/14. Something like 2 days on venom and two days on ec and rotate back and forth. Or 14 days on venom and then 14 days on ec and back and forth. I would not want to take these products at the same time!
hmm....well....the bathroom part is fairly normal...with any stim it usually has a diuretic effect, hence you need to make sure you drink enough water...as for the cramps...i didnt experience anything like that when i used it, it might be just a bi-product of needing to drink more water. i would just monitor it for now...try drinking more water..if it persists in the next day or so, i would alter that dosage and/or discontinue use all together. Hope this helps
good..you guys hiringCould not have said it better
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My feet hurt from doing it too much
good..you guys hiring
lol Maybe ... Whatcha got in mind??? I need an office asskicker
Exactly. My gf makes me take it while shes away.
Amazing product otherwise.
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Don't tell my wife that she'll make me take it.
Word. I have NEVER taken more than one at a time.... My shitake mushrooms would have blown the fartknocker up!
You will have an easier time finding Meridia. That is the illegal drug that was in Venom 3.0 original.
