Unanswered Vasodrive AP
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GQdaLEGEND
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From hydrolozied milk casein
PL did a great write up on it but then they made an upgraded version of the pre (black series) and then took ipp/vpp out
So iono if it was due to cost/value or rather pple not liking it.
Everything says “May” do this and that.
Did you find it solo to give it a try ?
PL did a great write up on it but then they made an upgraded version of the pre (black series) and then took ipp/vpp out
So iono if it was due to cost/value or rather pple not liking it.
Everything says “May” do this and that.
Did you find it solo to give it a try ?
The Solution
Legend
They have it in IntraCell7 Black, its not a cost issue, they just decided to use a different approach for MP Black, and they are currently reformulating MP Black by removing the L-Norvaline. You will see them changing the formula and flavors to a new product.
VasoDrive-AP is a research-backed, proprietary ingredient derived from casein produced through a patented fermentation and enzymatic process. This unique process yields two tripeptides, Valyl-Prolyl-Proline (VPP) and Isoleucyl-Prolyl-Proline(IPP), which have the remarkable effect of inhibiting angiotensin converting enzyme (ACE).
Vasodrive AP promotes greater vasodilation, blood flow, and PUMPS!
Don’t worry about being lactose intolerant and consuming this ingredient either, as VasoDrive-AP contains < 0.05% lactose.
u_e_s_i
Well-known member
Have you had a chance to try it yet?
The Solution
Legend
Mega Pre White here:
In the Mail .... - Page 74 - AnabolicMinds.com
I am expecting shipment from 4 different supplement companies and the wait is Killing me......... USPS...UPS...FedX Come On !!!!
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Intracell7 Review here:
IntraCell 7 Black Review - AnabolicMinds.com
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u_e_s_i
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I’ve read summaries of it but I want to do some research how effective it is before I try it.
I’ve done a brief search for it online but so far I haven’t found a way to acquire it as a standalone supp
GQdaLEGEND
Legend
Yeah try it alone as a stand-alone and see how it treats you
Looks promising but if it’s stacked with citrulline, betaine, glycerpump at full doses would be hard to tell ..synergy with the other gotta be pretty good.
I’ve taken purus labs muscle mariande which had it in it .. and enjoyed the product .
Keep us posted .. I’m testing out glycerpump standalone and damn it’s pretty amazing
Looks promising but if it’s stacked with citrulline, betaine, glycerpump at full doses would be hard to tell ..synergy with the other gotta be pretty good.
I’ve taken purus labs muscle mariande which had it in it .. and enjoyed the product .
Keep us posted .. I’m testing out glycerpump standalone and damn it’s pretty amazing
u_e_s_i
Well-known member
It’s still fairly new and most patented ingredients aren’t obtainable standalone for individuals until well after release so I’m not too concerned about that part
u_e_s_i
Well-known member
If I can get some standalone Vasodrive I’ll give it a go let you guys know how it goes.
What are your staples?
What else did you take whilst on muscle marinade?
Have you tried a pre whose pump agents were creatine, taurine and betaine plus citrulline and agmatine, or something similar to that?
I mean aside from Vasodrive, muscle marinade’s only pump agents are creatine, taurine, a bit of betaine and some nitrates. If we standardised for creatine, taurine and betaine, then I wonder how muscle marinade’s Vasodrive+nitrates combo compares to a stack of citrulline and agmatine (and maybe also arginine nitrate and/or sodium nitrate).
That’d tell us a lot about Vasodrive’s efficacy
u_e_s_i
Well-known member
Mega Pre White here:
In the Mail .... - Page 74 - AnabolicMinds.com
I am expecting shipment from 4 different supplement companies and the wait is Killing me......... USPS...UPS...FedX Come On !!!!
Intracell7 Review here:
Invalid Link RemovedIntraCell 7 Black Review - AnabolicMinds.com
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Nice, thank you. How effective did you find intracell7 black compared to other similar pump products that you’ve tried?
By similar, I mean ones whose profiles include small servings of taurine and glycerol and some other pump agents?
The Solution
Legend
Intracell7 Black is an intra workout not a pre workout.
u_e_s_i
Well-known member
Did you make it a staple of yours? If not, how come?
The Solution
Legend
I personally focus on optimizing my performance in the gym. Endurance and Recovery are key aspects in order to go in and improve beating the log book. I want to make sure my body is in the best condition and position to do this. Therefore I like to rotate Xtend Elite (Peak 02, Citrulline, KSM-66, Beta-Alanine, Electrolytes) over pump agents (Glycerol/Vasodrive AP). It comes down to what you prefer in your products and what else you take (pre-workouts and overlapping ingredients)
For example, I could take Mega Pre White (With VasoDrive AP + full of pump agents) and use Xtend Elite intra-workout to get the best of both worlds, or do a Non-Stim like VasoBlitz (nitrates, citrulline, calcium lactate, betaine) + IntraCell7 Black to do both
Too many variables and factors to put into the big picture when looking at one product.
IntraCell7 Black is a good formula with plenty of BCAA's/EAA's , Carbs, Electrolytes, Glycerol/Vasodrive + Taurine
Just depends on what you like and favor when it comes to your training. Some people want as much pump as possible. The pump plays a factor with Mind Muscle Connection and stimulating the muscle. Personally, there are other things that I personally focus on in front of pump ---> Recovery, Endurance, Performance, and Strength (Breaking or exceeding PR's by beating the log book)
u_e_s_i
Well-known member
Fair. I prioritise strength over pump too and that’s the main reason why I like to have an extra pump booster so I can get the best of both worlds.
I remember you saying that someone’s removing the norvaline from something, were you talking about Mega Pre White?
bignastyisbac
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Solution, why are you always talking down to people man. It's not a good look.
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N2ofusion
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I tried it as part of NO3 Drive, which I loved. Good pumps, long lasting effect, and small scoop size which makes it infinitely portable.
The version at the time contained:
So admittedly, this was the smallest ingredient in the blend, but it hit hard despite only 500 mg of actual Citrulline.
Don’t see the point in trying to pay for this ingredient solo if it’s readily available in a mix
The version at the time contained:
| NO3 PUMP MATRIX | 2127mg | |
| HydroMax® (65% Glycerol) | 750 mg | ** |
| Arginine Silicate (Nitrosigine®) | 750 mg | ** |
| Citrulline | 500 mg | ** |
| Hydrolyzed Protein-Derived Bioactive Peptides (VasoDrive-AP®) | 127 mg |
So admittedly, this was the smallest ingredient in the blend, but it hit hard despite only 500 mg of actual Citrulline.
Don’t see the point in trying to pay for this ingredient solo if it’s readily available in a mix
N2ofusion
Active member
I tried it as part of NO3 Drive, which I loved. Good pumps, long lasting effect, and small scoop size which makes it infinitely portable.
The version at the time contained:
So admittedly, this was the smallest ingredient in the blend, but it hit hard despite only 500 mg of actual Citrulline.
Don’t see the point in trying to pay for this ingredient solo if it’s readily available in a mix
The version at the time contained:
| NO3 PUMP MATRIX | 2127mg | |
| HydroMax® (65% Glycerol) | 750 mg | ** |
| Arginine Silicate (Nitrosigine®) | 750 mg | ** |
| Citrulline | 500 mg | ** |
| Hydrolyzed Protein-Derived Bioactive Peptides (VasoDrive-AP®) | 127 mg |
So admittedly, this was the smallest ingredient in the blend, but it hit hard despite only 500 mg of actual Citrulline.
Don’t see the point in trying to pay for this ingredient solo if it’s readily available in a mix
N2ofusion
Active member
I tried it as part of NO3 Drive, which I loved. Good pumps, long lasting effect, and small scoop size which makes it infinitely portable.
The version at the time contained:
So admittedly, this was the smallest ingredient in the blend, but it hit hard despite only 500 mg of actual Citrulline.
Don’t see the point in trying to pay for this ingredient solo if it’s readily available in a mix
The version at the time contained:
| NO3 PUMP MATRIX | 2127mg | |
| HydroMax® (65% Glycerol) | 750 mg | ** |
| Arginine Silicate (Nitrosigine®) | 750 mg | ** |
| Citrulline | 500 mg | ** |
| Hydrolyzed Protein-Derived Bioactive Peptides (VasoDrive-AP®) | 127 mg |
So admittedly, this was the smallest ingredient in the blend, but it hit hard despite only 500 mg of actual Citrulline.
Don’t see the point in trying to pay for this ingredient solo if it’s readily available in a mix
N2ofusion
Active member
I tried it as part of NO3 Drive, which I loved. Good pumps, long lasting effect, and small scoop size which makes it infinitely portable.
The version at the time contained:
So admittedly, this was the smallest ingredient in the blend, but it hit hard despite only 500 mg of actual Citrulline.
Don’t see the point in trying to pay for this ingredient solo if it’s readily available in a mix
The version at the time contained:
| NO3 PUMP MATRIX | 2127mg | |
| HydroMax® (65% Glycerol) | 750 mg | ** |
| Arginine Silicate (Nitrosigine®) | 750 mg | ** |
| Citrulline | 500 mg | ** |
| Hydrolyzed Protein-Derived Bioactive Peptides (VasoDrive-AP®) | 127 mg |
So admittedly, this was the smallest ingredient in the blend, but it hit hard despite only 500 mg of actual Citrulline.
Don’t see the point in trying to pay for this ingredient solo if it’s readily available in a mix
GQdaLEGEND
Legend
Staples for pump - Agmatine, vaso6, gyclerpump, citrulline(cit malate)
GQdaLEGEND
Legend
Staples for pump - Agmatine, vaso6, gyclerpump, citrulline(cit malate)