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SO, Last I heard that thermolife guy was suing about vaso6.

lol, I see several companies are adding it in again.
 
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This is what Steve said about it a bit ago..
This issue has been beat to death. No information came out; a competitor accused them of that being the case and it's a private legal matter between the parties involved.

If you have a particular extract derived from Green Tea, if I send your product to the lab and don't know what specifics to ask to be tested for, it's going to test out as Green Tea because it is from Green Tea. Think of it like this - if you have a specialized extract of a certain type of Divanil from Stinging Nettle, if I send yours to a lab and test for Stinging Nettle, it will test positive for Stinging Nettle because it is Stinging Nettle. If I don't know the specifics on your specialized extract, I can't request it be tested for because I don't know it. Now sure, I could put you on the spot with the accusation that it's just regular Stinging Nettle, which then puts you in the spot that to defend yourself you may need to reveal the specifics of your specialized extract. Bottom line: When branded ingredient companies sue one another, it's for competitive and financial reasons and its best to let them handle that between themselves.

(Plus I don't doubt that there are companies using regular Green Tea and selling it as VASO6 because VASO6 is so expensive).

VASO6 has a ton of great feedback on it and many people love it. Most anyone that's tried it knows that from the sheer perspective of results that its not regular green tea. Regular green tea doesn't give you pumps and improve erection quality and these are very commonly associated with VASO6.

Even if you believe in all the controversy and aren't a fan of VASO6, even without it it is still the most cost effective Epiandrosterone product on the market.
 
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I'm friends with one of the guys involved in the development of Vaso6, I believe you guys know him as Cooper, and he assured me that legit vaso6 is not ordinary green tea extract.
good ole MR.COOPER miss that guy!!!

on a personal note-I've used both and found a huge difference between the 2. vaso6 is vastly superior to green tea from my experience.
 
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I'm friends with one of the guys involved in the development of Vaso6, I believe you guys know him as Cooper, and he assured me that legit vaso6 is not ordinary green tea extract.
I thought he was a practicing MD? Good to hear he’s still doing R&D for supplements
 
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I thought he was a practicing MD? Good to hear he’s still doing R&D for supplements
This was a while back. I believe it was one of the last things he worked on in the supplement world... other than occasionally helping me out a little.
 
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I thought he was a practicing MD? Good to hear he’s still doing R&D for supplements
This was a while back. I believe it was one of the last things he worked on in the supplement world... other than occasionally helping me out a little.
 
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I was a fan of Vaso6 as well.
 

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what happend to cooper would be nice to have some intelligence back on the boards or behind supps again
 
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what happend to cooper would be nice to have some intelligence back on the boards or behind supps again
He became an MD and didn't have enough time to post. He also got fed up with the bickering on the forums
 
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Still interested to see how this whole lawsuit thing boils out to be. I'm neutral, never ran vaso6 solo, so I have not idea yea or nay.
 
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I like vaso6...I don't like that thermolife guy.
Thing is bringing things back to attention like this helps the people doing the lawsuits more than the ingredient bc it makes people see it that hadn’t otherwise.

It’s a good chance no one will ever know how the lawsuit plays out; as is the nature of most lawsuits.

Anyone that’s tried Vaso6 knows Vaso6 isn’t regular green tea. But as with most proprietary constituents, the patent holder likely doesn’t want to give away the constituents bc it makes it easier for Chinese suppliers to knock off their ingredient.

You’re definitely seeing it get added to more and more products again bc it works. I think you’ll just see companies back off on some of the claims and I think that may have been TL’s issue in that some companies were that were hyping Vaso6 were attacking nitrates and that was unprofessional and unnecessary.
 
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Thing is bringing things back to attention like this helps the people doing the lawsuits more than the ingredient bc it makes people see it that hadn’t otherwise.

It’s a good chance no one will ever know how the lawsuit plays out; as is the nature of most lawsuits.

Anyone that’s tried Vaso6 knows Vaso6 isn’t regular green tea. But as with most proprietary constituents, the patent holder likely doesn’t want to give away the constituents bc it makes it easier for Chinese suppliers to knock off their ingredient.

You’re definitely seeing it get added to more and more products again bc it works. I think you’ll just see companies back off on some of the claims and I think that may have been TL’s issue in that some companies were that were hyping Vaso6 were attacking nitrates and that was unprofessional and unnecessary.
the fact that it is getting added to more and more products tells me all I need to know.
 

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I seem to nausea from vaso6, anyone else? Doesn't stop me from using just an observation
 
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More so on an empty stomach of course
I've never had any issues with nausea with it and never heard of anyone having any but everything affects people differently. I would think taking it with food or before a meal would take care of that if you're experiencing it.
 

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I never noticed any pump from VASO6 but 1 interesting thing I noticed on is lowered heart rate during cardio, even with a overdose of stims
 
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I never noticed any pump from VASO6 but 1 interesting thing I noticed on is lowered heart rate during cardio, even with a overdose of stims
I've noticed great pumps and also improvements in erection quality and also blood pressure so I'm not surprised at all that you've noticed a lowered heart rate during cardio. That isn't something I've monitored myself but may start doing so for the heck of it.
 
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I've noticed great pumps and also improvements in erection quality and also blood pressure so I'm not surprised at all that you've noticed a lowered heart rate during cardio. That isn't something I've monitored myself but may start doing so for the heck of it.
I need to start using the monitor thing that looks like a wrist watch...my daughter got me one for Christmas around 5 years ago but I haven't even taken out of package.
 
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I never noticed any pump from VASO6 but 1 interesting thing I noticed on is lowered heart rate during cardio, even with a overdose of stims
How many have you taken PWO? Lately I’ve been doing my Stano-Plex + one regular SNS VASO6 and I get skin ripping pumps as well as great focus during my workouts. Don’t even bother taking a stim now
 

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How many have you taken PWO? Lately I’ve been doing my Stano-Plex + one regular SNS VASO6 and I get skin ripping pumps as well as great focus during my workouts. Don’t even bother taking a stim now
I tried 2 caps of SNS VASO6 and no different than 1, I also have a pre with VASO6 in and no pump but good for cardio.
 

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I've noticed great pumps and also improvements in erection quality and also blood pressure so I'm not surprised at all that you've noticed a lowered heart rate during cardio. That isn't something I've monitored myself but may start doing so for the heck of it.
This is something I noticed in the past. Epicatechin + Vaso6 was the best combo for lowering my RHR as of late. Want to add some Vaso6 back in soon.
 
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I tried 2 caps of SNS VASO6 and no different than 1, I also have a pre with VASO6 in and no pump but good for cardio.
Different things work different for different people. I've tried many things over the years that seemed to work great for a lot of people that didn't work for me; but VASO6 definitely works well for me.

I can say that for me taking 2 caps VASO6 is incredible and I've tried them 2 pre-workout and 1 spaced out twice per day.
 
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How many have you taken PWO? Lately I’ve been doing my Stano-Plex + one regular SNS VASO6 and I get skin ripping pumps as well as great focus during my workouts. Don’t even bother taking a stim now
That's awesome to hear. Thanks for sharing.

I've taken up to 600 mg. pre-workout and love it. Most days I take 300 mg twice per day but some days I do double up pre-workout, depending on the body part. If i train arms heavy and high volume, the pumps off 600 mg. can be almost too intense (in a good way though).
 
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I never noticed any pump from VASO6 but 1 interesting thing I noticed on is lowered heart rate during cardio, even with a overdose of stims
am with you on that. Been on Ep1logue for over a month and I haven’t noticed any extra ordinary pump from the 300mg Vaso6 in it. That being said, I am really enjoying the Ep1logue run.
 
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Whaaaat!? Thats crazy that some people do not experience a pump from Vaso6. But I guess everyone reacts differently to different ingredients.

300mg of Vaso6 and my arm turns into a roadmap! I've tried 600mg a few times and while the pump/vascularity is definitely prominent, it isn't THAT much better to where I feel the need to use the additional amount.
 

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It's interesting how different this product effects people. I take 300-600mg and my calfs and forearms become crazy vascular and the pumps are painful.
 
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Hmmmm guess I need to try this as well
 
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Where’s Vasoforce XT. I’ve been waiting...
You mean besides the bottle on my desk right now? Guess that means I should at least put up a teaser thread huh? ;)
 

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I take Cialis daily for this. Can anyone make a comparison to vaso6? If Vaso6 is better I'll switch. Right now Cialis and gm works pretty well. Going to switch out the gm for sns glycerol product when my bag runs out.
 

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I take Cialis daily for this. Can anyone make a comparison to vaso6? If Vaso6 is better I'll switch. Right now Cialis and gm works pretty well. Going to switch out the gm for sns glycerol product when my bag runs out.
 
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I take Cialis daily for this. Can anyone make a comparison to vaso6? If Vaso6 is better I'll switch. Right now Cialis and gm works pretty well. Going to switch out the gm for sns glycerol product when my bag runs out.
I can't make an accurate comparison for you bc Cialis honestly does nothing for me in terms of workout performance and even at low dosing makes my head so stuffy it affect my breathing during working out. That's with actual prescription version; I will not try research chems (sorry, I know too much about quality controls or lack thereof on them haha).

VASO6 works great for me for pumps in the gym and has helped my blood pressure which tends to run slightly high (genetic; every male in my family is that way). It also does help with erection quality; I can't say it works better for erection quality than Cialis does but I can say that with VASO6 I've found for me there is no reason to ever even use Cialis for that purpose and it doesn't give me the stuffy headedness that Cialis does.
 
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Does anyone know roughly the halflife of vaso6?
 
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Does anyone know roughly the halflife of vaso6?
I don't know the actual half life but for me the pump effects seem be long lasting. I use it daily use even through period where I haven't been working out because I've found that it helps with my blood pressure.
 

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