Various Tren Compounds

ejschmidt

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Prior to the ban, I stocked up on some PHF Trenavar (Estra-4, 9, 11-triene-3, 17-dione) and some BodyConcscious Tren (19 norandrosta-4-9, diene-3, 17-dione) and I'm finally reaching a plateau in my lifts (I try to cycle as infrequently as necessary). Looking to run a tren cycle with one of the aforementioned compounds, and despite diligent research, I have been unable to determine if they are simply analogues, or if they are two fundamentally different compounds.

Would I be ok taking one and then taking the other when one supply runs out, or should I run a shorter cycle of just one of them.

Thanks in advance.

For those curious of what my stats are:
27 years old, 5'9" 181lbs, ~16% BF, Deadlift: 405 2rm, Squat: 365 4rm (never tried going higher), Bench: 305 2rm
 
Trenevar converts to actual trenbolone and I believe the "tren" converts to dienelone, trenevar should be run at 90-120mg for good effects to be honest, don't really know about the other, but I'd run one and save the other for another cycle
 
Pick up some Nos labs dien diol. Stuff is going to be epic. Tren ph's are very strong when run at 90-150mg daily but for me come with too many sides compared to real tren. I know many have the same feedback.
 
Would recommend the Tvar over the 19-nor

Dosing will depend on the dose per capsule and how much of it you have

Usually start out 50-75 mg/day and you can work it up from there
 
I've got 4 complete bags of 90 tabs of trenavar (10mg a piece) and 3 bottles of the 19nor 200 tabs of 50mg a piece.
 
I'm considering running Trenavar 60/60/70/90/90/90 possibly adjusting dosage slightly in the last two weeks if the sides are manageable, and in order to exhaust my supply.
I am considering running Ment at 40mg as preworkout only on work out days.
Cycle support by CEL and Blackstone, tudca and Nac, Liv. 52, lots of glucosamine for my joints.

220g of protein daily, with 60mg coming post workout. Macros are about 60 protein, 20 carbs, 20 fat.

Running on odd days, tabata on even days. Texas power lifting program mixed with a little 5/3/1 - lifting 6x a week (Sundays are a sacred day for slaughtering beef on our farm)
 
The diene shows you it's dienedione an ph to the steroid dienolone

The triene shows you it trenadione, the ph to trenbolone.
 
So, the Trenavar (triene) is the more potent of the two?

Rarely have I come across something I couldn't find much info on, but this 19 nor stuff is not so well documented.

I'm going to run the Trenavar for this cycle then, but would the 19 nor be dosed similarly for the future?
 
Dosage and results are pretty much the same for both.
 
I appreciate all of the info. I'm going to run the Trenavar (estra) - it's curious that there really isn't an abundance on the dienolone precursor. It seems there are a handful of articles on it, but nothing definitive.
 
One of the the lads on here did a cycle of dien and he was shocked at the results, turned out to be really good..
 
ejschmidt said:
I appreciate all of the info. I'm going to run the Trenavar (estra) - it's curious that there really isn't an abundance on the dienolone precursor. It seems there are a handful of articles on it, but nothing definitive.
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That's because it's so similar to tren most can't tell the difference.
I've ran both compounds. 90mg is the sweet spot ( gains vs sides) for both compounds for most people. 120mg being common for more experienced users, for both.
Never injected dienolone, so can't compare it to injectable tren, which I've used. But the ph's, I've used both in the past.
I actually prefer trenadione over tren ace, as sides are easier to manage. But it's no where near as potent.
Oh an btw,
ejschmidt said:
Estra-4, 9,
19 norandrosta-4-9)
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These are both the same thing.
 
Man I had good results off 60mg trenevar for 6 weeks, serious night sweats and random bouts of anger though.... wonder why I responded to the low dose? Haha
 
I was a intitial tester of trenavar back when it was first released.

I also ran black stone labs tren clone when it/they first came on the scene. That was ran at 60mg, and worked fine but def wanted more. * this was before they started putting out bunk stuff. Now it's hit or miss.

Everyone is going to have different metabolisms, how ones body metabolizes these pro hormones can effect how much they see from these ph's.
 
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