Using Msten with otc test booster?

jbergman90

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Is IML's 4-ad RX a sufficient PH to run alongside methylsten? Looking for an OTC test base for an upcoming msten cycle.

If 4ad is sufficient: How much should I run daily, and for how long? My msten cycle is going to be 4 weeks in length at 20/20/20/20.
I've already got my PCT lined up, just need to grab arimidex or some type of AI for test conversion from 4-ad on cycle.
 
Rhadam said:
Why do you think you need a natural test booster while using msten?
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I don't want to use a natural test booster, I want to use an OTC one. I could care less if it's natural, I just can't have pins laying around my house. I figured that if 4-ad RX was comparable to the original 4-ad that running it for 8 weeks (for the whole time I run msten + 4 more) would help me retain my gains and bridge me into PCT. Also to avoid side effects related to shutdown.

Unless you meant the DAA? I'm using that to kickstart natty test production in PCT.
edit: just noticed I hadn't even mentioned DAA in OP but hey, now ya know :P

PS: sorry for double post. long time lurker but just registered.
 
Sorry, i kind of read that wrong. Ya that would work. I like stano along with your stronger PHs. Really helps things out.
 
Rhadam said:
Sorry, i kind of read that wrong. Ya that would work. I like stano along with your stronger PHs. Really helps things out.
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Cool. I'm wondering if you could clear up a few things I'm wondering: 1) Is 4-ad RX comparable to the original and
2) would an OTC AI be sufficient or should I go with arimidex?
 
Msten = Ultradrol (methylstenbolone) right?

Well ... you would like to run a PH that converts to test via a two step process while your HPTA is shutdown from the Msten. I really don't know - if there is an abundance of androgen from the Msten already in the body - will the body make the necessary steps to convert the PH to active Test?

Then again - I've run "Dermacrine" as my test base of U/D cycles ... THINKING that it would convert eventually into testosterone. I'm not convinced it does at all. I think I was an idiot about that.

Best way to get test in is to inject it. I know you don't want to ... soooo ... yeah - it's your decision.

Don't know how many cycles you've run. Msten is fine for running on it's own. You can also add the PH and if it doesn't do much it's just a monetary waste and nothing else.
 
HondaV65 said:
Msten = Ultradrol (methylstenbolone) right?


Well ... you would like to run a PH that converts to test via a two step process while your HPTA is shutdown from the Msten. I really don't know - if there is an abundance of androgen from the Msten already in the body - will the body make the necessary steps to convert the PH to active Test?
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Msten is indeed ultradrol (methylstenbolone).

That's a very good question - one I hope someone can answer definitively, as I cannot. The 4-ad is relatively expensive to run for 4-6 weeks, so depending on the feedback I get I might not add it in. I just think it'd contribute to the already fantastic things I hear about methylsten.

I'm also considering running an injection based cycle in september (test enanthate + dbol or a DS kicker), but I want to get one more bulk/cut under my belt before I do.
 
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