using dermacrine as test base with dmz?

[ddemark]

I've been wanting to run dmz and use tr3st as a test base, but I don't like the armoatising effects of tr3st. I want to stay dry so I'm thinking stacking dmz with Dermafury, would dermacrine work as a test base and if so how would you recommend dose it?

Side note~ this is my 2nd cycle, it will be 6weeks

Thanks

 

[ddemark]

Bump

 

[zendog]

Dermacrine did nothing for me but give me a reduced libido and a little anxiety.

 

[ddemark]

I'm about 208lbs, should i run 4pumps a day, 2in the morning and 2in the evening?

 

[ddemark]

Haha seriously? Would it work well pre workout?

 

[TeamTGB]

Yes the dermacrine would work well, it will provide some conversion to estrogen helping to offset the lethargy. Should be a nice stack.

 

[ddemark]

Should I low dose an AI with it like transform?

 

[TeamTGB]

Should I low dose an AI with it like transform?

Thats not a bad idea i use formestane year round for all the little benefits its provides, The owner does this as well. I would do 1 pump a day that should be sufficient especially with the oral trest. the plasma spike is shorter vs the transdermal version less time for conversion.

 

[ddemark]

I'm not going to take the tr3st, just using dermacrine for test base

 

[kisaj]

I don't see how derma would be used as a test base as it is essentially preg and DHEA. While a portion can convert to test as it sits atop the hormone pathway, I would not consider it for a base.

 

[Misfit28]

Thanks for the Dermacrine support in here

Yes, even though it is not actually "test", it makes a good base because of the aforementioned properties of libido boost and lethargy prevention.

I love the feeling I get while on Dermacrine, I feel much better, physically and mentally.

 

[kisaj]

There is no doubt that preg and DHEA is a great feel good stack and I have heard nothing but good things about Dermacrine.

 

[Misfit28]

There is no doubt that preg and DHEA is a great feel good stack and I have heard nothing but good things about Dermacrine.

I also think the conversion to DHT and some Estro increase really help out with the lethargy that is common with compounds like DMZ.

 

[Abe Lincoln]

I also think the conversion to DHT and some Estro increase really help out with the lethargy that is common with compounds like DMZ.

Estrogen is good for gains as well. Don't want to crush your estrogen or won't get the best out of the cycle.

 

[ddemark]

Thanks for the Dermacrine support in here

Yes, even though it is not actually "test", it makes a good base because of the aforementioned properties of libido boost and lethargy prevention.

I love the feeling I get while on Dermacrine, I feel much better, physically and mentally.

That's what I'm looking for! A boost in libido and energy on cycle. Msten hit me hard week 3, killer energy inside the gym, but outside I was tired

 

[ddemark]

Word, I'm being totally honest. I swear it made my loads huge too!

But that's a strong negative on the preworkout application. It's best to wait 6 hours before sweating profusely or showering when running Dermacrine. You want to get that maximum absorption through the skin. Good luck!

Ok thanks, I'll time it away from my workout. And all 4pumps at once is ok? must have a long half life?

 

[kisaj]

That's what I'm looking for! A boost in libido and energy on cycle. Msten hit me hard week 3, killer energy inside the gym, but outside I was tired

Viron would fit in nice there. Tongkat and boron are great on test. It would be a great addition to Derm for libido and energy.

 

[ddemark]

Awesome, And viron on cycle??

Have any of you heard of Testosyn? It's a natty test booster with the same dose of tongkat ali and boron citrate, plus maca root, tribulus, horny goat word, and more

 

[Misfit28]

The profile is surpisingly not too bad. The Maca content is pretty low, and Tribulus hasn't been proven to do anything for test levels.

If you want some potent Maca, you should check out MacaPro. It is very affordable, and 2 caps would yield 20g of dried root powder, as it is a 20:1 extract