Using Androgel as a Test Base

Cycloman

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I'm not on TRT and am planning a new SARMS cycle of Ostarine and Rad140. Last cycle my T levels crashed and I've been reading that some people recommend a Test base to avoid the lethargy/ libido sides that come with shutdown.

If that's the case - would some Androgel on top of the SARMs stack do the job? It's easily obtainable for me and I don't like Injections.

The obvious questions is - does this even make sense at all since using any form of T will shut me down further.

Any thoughts?
 
Test bases are recommended with anything surpressive. The idea being that they will be your testosterone whilst your body isn't producing much, if any, of it's own. This reduces the side effects of SARM's, PH's and AAS's such as lethargy and loss of libido.
Popular (non injectable) Test Bases...
BPS Dermacrine
4-Andro
Epi-Andro (DHT Base)
 
Thanks for the reply. So my next question is wouldn't the Test base increase suppression? I ran Sarms and was definitely suppressed but my LH/FSH were in the normal range. I suspect adding some T would drop those values as well, no?

Also - would adding T change the PCT protocol. Normally for Sarms I run a a mini PCT - Nolva @ 20/20/10/10 with no AI. Should this be changed while adding T?

Thanks in advance. Really appreciate it!
 
Surpression is Surpression. The level of which will depend on the compounds you run and how long you run them for they'll still shut you down. You will already be surpressed from your SARM's, so although a Test Base would shut you down it wont be anymore so than you'd already be.
The Test Base will just help you feel better, on cycle, help you run a smoother cycle and even increase your gains (4-Andro) during your cycle.
A full PCT should always be run, no matter what type of PED you run. Depending on which Test Base you run I'd suggest
Clomid 50/25/25/25 OR Nolva 40/40/20/20 to kickstart your HPTA (Natural Test Production Controller). Regarding an AI, you should always have one to hand for PED cycles. Arimidex is popular but Exemestane is the best. AI doses will be dependent on the severity of the sides.
 
Forget about using any of these promoted pro hormones as test base. Androgel is pure testosterone and is perfect in a cycle.
I'm on Tostrex gel myself, keeping a steady 1200 ng/dl of test on and off cycle.
 
aovereem said:
Forget about using any of these promoted pro hormones as test base. Androgel is pure testosterone and is perfect in a cycle.
I'm on Tostrex gel myself, keeping a steady 1200 ng/dl of test on and off cycle.
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Thanks. This is what I thought. Other lifter friends of mine were telling me to pin Test E or C but the research shows that Andro is as good, and easier to obtain and apply.

Do you mind if I ask if you were on TRT or using it for the purposes of gains? If the latter, do cycle the Andro with roids/ Sarms or just stay on?

I'm planning an Ostarine run and it is very suppressive at the doses most lifters use.
 
My doctor put me on a test gel TRT regiment 4 years ago after my hormone levels had tanked. Since then Ive gone on and off more substances than I can remember, always low dose though, sometimes with a little extra added cyp or enanthate, and always going clean every 6 month when its bloodwork time.

My first run with TRT as a base was actually an ostarine/tb500 cycle. It was during my time as an mma fighter and it helped tremendously with recovery. Ostarine flared my old gyno pretty bad though. Have done ostarine twice more, but both times it caused me some pretty severe hair shedding, and I dont even shed hair on dbol or masteron or any other DHT compound Ive done.
 
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