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WARBIRDWS6 said:
no, not really. I'm pretty normal or a bit above the average person I suppose (like I was saying before, high end of normal 122/80 or so max).....they want there to be less stress on my heart so the docs have me take BP meds to keep the BP low as possible, and of course aspirin to thin the blood.....but my main medicine I MUST take is coreg (beta blocker) to slow my heart rate down since it is usually elevated. I'm gonna have them check my thyroid next visit to see if that might be contributing to my heart rate being rapid. but my main problem is rapid heart rate, not BP or lipids or anything of that nature.
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I don't mean to be a dick, but why are you still messing with this stuff? Have you by chance messed with clen before?
 
SardonicMedic said:
I don't mean to be a dick, but why are you still messing with this stuff? Have you by chance messed with clen before?
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I actually hadn't messed with much of anything for about 5-6 years, I still try not to use any actual AAS or stims now.....more milder stuff and more moderate doses (sometimes I may do something I should not of course, human nature). But I know what I am doing, i monitor myself and if something causes an unwanted effect I either remedy it or I have to stop taking whatever it is. And yes, I think clen/ECA/stim use had something to do with it, along with other factors I'm sure....but I did use a lot of ECA-Y and/or clen in my 20's. Hey If I can't workout, can't take this or that, can't do anything....why bother? just because you have some sort of health issue does not mean you need to stop working out or taking supplements....I just know I need to stay away from certain things (most things) and keep an eye on myself. 90% of the guys on here have an enlargement of the heart, they just don't know it yet...trust me on this one....just this lifestyle causes that effect, all it takes is something to exacerbate it and it can become a problem......we get posts daily on here about elevated BP or I had to go to the hospital about my heart, or my heart is doing this or that....you can't live life like a pu$$y all the time, but you should be as safe as you can be :D.....
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I actually hadn't messed with much of anything for about 5-6 years, I still try not to use any actual AAS or stims now.....more milder stuff and more moderate doses (sometimes I may do something I should not of course, human nature). But I know what I am doing, i monitor myself and if something causes an unwanted effect I either remedy it or I have to stop taking whatever it is. And yes, I think clen/ECA/stim use had something to do with it, along with other factors I'm sure....but I did use a lot of ECA-Y and/or clen in my 20's. Hey If I can't workout, can't take this or that, can't do anything....why bother? just because you have some sort of health issue does not mean you need to stop working out or taking supplements....I just know I need to stay away from certain things (most things) and keep an eye on myself. 90% of the guys on here have an enlargement of the heart, they just don't know it yet...trust me on this one....just this lifestyle causes that effect, all it takes is something to exacerbate it and it can become a problem......we get posts daily on here about elevated BP or I had to go to the hospital about my heart, or my heart is doing this or that....you can't live life like a pu$$y all the time, but you should be as safe as you can be :D.....
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This is what I was talking about earlier,how is ingesting a substance you know will damage your body anything but irresponsible?
Change the players but keep the circumstances and you have every teen asking about stuff on this particular board. Replace the grieving parents with a grieving spouse and the same public image problems emerge.
 
SardonicMedic said:
This is what I was talking about earlier,how is ingesting a substance you know will damage your body anything but irresponsible?
Change the players but keep the circumstances and you have every teen asking about stuff on this particular board. Replace the grieving parents with a grieving spouse and the same public image problems emerge.
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Thats my decision.....same thing with teenagers, give them the advice and they do with it what they will. I know just as much or more than the next guy and am in tune with my body. My cardiologist even told me I can adjust my meds as I monitor the situation because he trusts me (if I see high BP i adjust meds/supps, my heart rate is high, adjust meds/supps)....If somebody wants to risk their life (supposedly) taking this or that PH or jumping out of airplanes or riding a motorcycle 200MPH....that is their choice and you have no say so in the matter. I suggest stop trying to micromanage everybody else and stop bitching about this and that, all of which does not really concern you. You always have something negative to say on here, and you don't even know each persons history or knowledge or ANYTHING about them....just random info they supply you. Since you have such a hardon for the PH's and the anabolic community in general, Why the F are you even on here? to champion the cause of setting us all straight? LMAO, For the love of christ already with you.....
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
Thats my decision.....same thing with teenagers, give them the advice and they do with it what they will. I know just as much or more than the next guy and am in tune with my body. My cardiologist even told me I can adjust my meds as I monitor the situation because he trusts me (if I see high BP i adjust meds/supps, my heart rate is high, adjust meds/supps)....If somebody wants to risk their life (supposedly) taking this or that PH or jumping out of airplanes or riding a motorcycle 200MPH....that is their choice and you have no say so in the matter. I suggest stop trying to micromanage everybody else and stop bitching about this and that, all of which does not really concern you. You always have something negative to say on here, and you don't even know each persons history or knowledge or ANYTHING about them....just random info they supply you. Since you have such a hardon for the PH's and the anabolic community in general, Why the F are you even on here? to champion the cause of setting us all straight? LMAO, For the love of christ already with you.....
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:thumbsup:
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
If I want to kill myself I'll fukcin do it!!! LMFAO....what part of my stash do you want me to leave you if I croak? I'll give you first dibs and manbeast second dibs :D
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Every damn thing and I'll give Manbeast what I feel he should have!

I know 1 good thing about u, u never back down u always stand up for your self!
 
At least I know I'll get all the real goodies :D

ManBeast
 
There are some negative nelly's on here....all they do is criticize everybody and everything, with a negative spin on everything they say....it gets to a point where its like "enough of this shyt"....If you don't like steroids or PH's or any of this stuff, don't take it and don't run around telling everybody not to mess with it. Most people are smart enough to make the right decisions....yeah the teenagers need to be told, but you can only advise them, nothing more. adults pretty much know what they should and should not take if they have health concerns.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
There are some negative nelly's on here....all they do is criticize everybody and everything, with a negative spin on everything they say....it gets to a point where its like "enough of this shyt"....If you don't like steroids or PH's or any of this stuff, don't take it and don't run around telling everybody not to mess with it. Most people are smart enough to make the right decisions....yeah the teenagers need to be told, but you can only advise them, nothing more. adults pretty much know what they should and should not take if they have health concerns.
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There r some stupid adults 2, and for that we have ManBeast
 
AaronJP1 said:
There r some stupid adults 2, and for that we have ManBeast
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you mean the adults that don't want to do PCT? lol :D

you know me though, I always ask if this or that will raise my BP or stimulate my CNS or make me hold excessive water weight...all the things I need to avoid. If you know what your risk factors are, you just avoid things that cause them. of course, every once in a while we all get reckless and do shyt that is not good for us....but rarely for me.....
 
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