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ur opinion about my havoc cycle

atok2

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Im 24 years, been lifting for 5 years, solid gains, train 5-6 times a week.
Ive been doing my research for the last couple of weeks and finaly dicided to start my first prohormone cycle.

havoc for 4 weeks 10mg for the first couple of days and then 20mg and probably 30mg last week.
with havoc ill take my staple multi-fish oil + livermilk+3g taurine
ill start reversitol at the end of the cycle and continue using it for pst for 3-4 weeks.

what Im not sure of is this:
1)is livermilk enough or do i need something like cycle support?
2)for pct adding a test boost is a must or reversitol would do the job?

Thank you for your time and advice.
 
Chefbolic said:
Dose the epi higher. Pct needs a serm as the base.
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Agree with all of this. PCT should include a SERM, test booster, and an estrogen control product ( consensus on these boards)

Don't waste your time with a super low dose of epi, start out with the very least 20mg, and most people will say start at 30mg.
 
atok2 said:
so 20mg and then stay on 30mg

add serm for pst+ Erase after a week or two

thank you
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Yeah, EPI 20/20/30/30/30 (or higher if your sides are low and you feel good) After your last day start PCT with your serm, erase and test booster
 
Pct revolution black is a nice addition to your serm of choice. It's erase, DAA, and a bunch of other stuff. Two bottles. Taper serm down, taper pct black up. It's cheaper than buying the other stuff separate. You can get it off amazon for like 20 bucks a bottle.
 
So let say that there are some places selling "perfect cycle stack" what includes: Epi, AI(6-bromo), test booster(Titanium XL) and cycle support but if I don't have access for serm like nolva I shouldn't buy this ?

At the moment I've planned to run 5 weeks: LG M1D Black + LG MMv3
and PTC: LG FormX + DS AX

But I was thinking could I stack epi with these.
 
Huskie35 said:
No SERM, no cycle, that simple. Do some more research, you can get Nolva (for your lab rats of course) online, just cant discus sources here.
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Yeah, I actually know few places... So buying a research chems is fully legal right ( for research purposes of course...) but if I want to order something do I somehow have a proof where I'm using that or is the buying of research chems restricted at all if you compare the some OTC medicines like bronkaid ? Or is it as simple as ordering protein powder online ?

Thanks!
 
darkstr said:
Yeah, I actually know few places... So buying a research chems is fully legal right ( for research purposes of course...) but if I want to order something do I somehow have a proof where I'm using that or is the buying of research chems restricted at all if you compare the some OTC medicines like bronkaid ? Or is it as simple as ordering protein powder online ?

Thanks!
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You just order what you need for your research on your rat. Just as easy as ordering a pair of underwear from target . Com.
 
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