Upcoming Ultra Hard cycle

ironfiend23

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I'm planning on running Ultra Hard for 8-10 weeks. I wanted to get my ducks in a row if anyone has any advice.

Will be getting blood work this week. This is my first PH cycle in over 20 years.

Planning on getting something for post cycle from MA research. Is Nolva or Clomid currently recommended? Any other tips for this run? Thanks in advance!
 
I have no feedback in regards to MA but I have run UH a few times and finished with XPG Alpha Gel as my PCT. I did not find Ultra Hard to be that harsh. Most ran a double dose of epi with epiandrolean + Iconics Ultra Epi and still finished simply with XPG Alpha Gel.
 
ironfiend23 said:
I'm planning on running Ultra Hard for 8-10 weeks. I wanted to get my ducks in a row if anyone has any advice.

Will be getting blood work this week. This is my first PH cycle in over 20 years.

Planning on getting something for post cycle from MA research. Is Nolva or Clomid currently recommended? Any other tips for this run? Thanks in advance!
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I finishing up a PH/Sarm cycle in a few weeks
Epiandro
4Andro
RAD 150
I’ll be using tamoxifen from MA as PCT 4wks
 
I'm not that up on Sarms and Peptides..
However, rather knowledgeable on the Dark Side compounds..Real Gear..!!

Just curious if those things even come close to the Real Gear..??
Here to learn and share..
Z
 
Dustin07 said:
I have no feedback in regards to MA but I have run UH a few times and finished with XPG Alpha Gel as my PCT. I did not find Ultra Hard to be that harsh. Most ran a double dose of epi with epiandrolean + Iconics Ultra Epi and still finished simply with XPG Alpha Gel.
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Thank you! What was your experience with Ultra Hard @Dustin07 ?
 
PhantomReaper said:
Just curious if those things even come close to the Real Gear..??
Here to learn and share..
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I feel like Kleen/Hyde/Skraw have all used the iconic products and might be able to give a real comparrison.

ironfiend23 said:
Thank you! What was your experience with Ultra Hard @Dustin07 ?
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I've run Ultra Hard, Ultra Epi, Epiandrolean, and XPG Epi. (and now Gear Cream).
From all of the epiandro products, I feel like I have gained hypertrophy/size <- but not necessarily strength. My strength gains always come post cycle when I'm back on anabolic xt or anabolic effect.
The Ultra Hard includes the Androsterone which 100% gives me good mood vibes.
Under very high doses towards the end of cycles I have felt a slight uptick in BP or general nerves, but nothing bad or scary. With the andro I've sen a little hair shedding but nothing too bad and I use a shampoo/conditioner to help with all that.

Ultra hard is a good product, I enjoy it, but I think I benefit from about double the epi dose so if I run it again I'll probably pair it with an oral epiandro like epiandrolean or something. When I use a lot of it, the carrier in the iconic products can cause my skin to get irritated so a little lotion or moving the application site around helps with that.
 
I would say, I felt great on ultra hard when I was on it, however it caused pretty aggressive hair shedding for me so had to stop (5 pumps a day).

I have also heard androesterone causes libido issues in the future once you come off it, and can have long term effects regarding libido… so won’t be touching it again
 
Joshlm69 said:
I would say, I felt great on ultra hard when I was on it, however it caused pretty aggressive hair shedding for me so had to stop (5 pumps a day).

I have also heard androesterone causes libido issues in the future once you come off it, and can have long term effects regarding libido… so won’t be touching it again
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I have been warned the same thing on the andro so I'm always aware of the risk as well, but have had zero issues there. But I definitely think I shed more hair with the andro than anything else.
 
Well now I'm more nervous... could a solid PCT effect this positively? I will be keeping an eye on shedding as well. Thank you.
 
ironfiend23 said:
Well now I'm more nervous... could a solid PCT effect this positively? I will be keeping an eye on shedding as well. Thank you.
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For ultra hard I never needed anymore PCT than XPG Alpha Gel.
The shedding typically occurred more towards middle to end of cycle for me
I use this shampoo:

https://www.strongsupplementshop.com/pura-d-or-argan-oil
and a good biotin conditioner and the girl who has been cutting my hair for like 9 years says my hair thickness is in good shape.
 
Joshlm69 said:
I would say, I felt great on ultra hard when I was on it, however it caused pretty aggressive hair shedding for me so had to stop (5 pumps a day).

I have also heard androesterone causes libido issues in the future once you come off it, and can have long term effects regarding libido… so won’t be touching it again
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What kind of libido issues? Like it kills it and it's hard to regain?
 
Joshlm69 said:
I would say, I felt great on ultra hard when I was on it, however it caused pretty aggressive hair shedding for me so had to stop (5 pumps a day).

I have also heard androesterone causes libido issues in the future once you come off it, and can have long term effects regarding libido… so won’t be touching it again
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this is something I've not heard of - I would imagine this would have been talked about quite a bit from the primirdial androseries lineup that used quite a bit of androsterone. studies on this? I've been around a long time and there are many users for many years that have LOVED androsterone...never heard talk of this issue.
 
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