Ultradrol + Trenzone Stack ! ! !

WARBIRDWS6 said:
i take a few hundred mg's P-5-P and like a gram or so of 1-carboxy and two NOW L-dopa mucuna caps per day. pretty much the three things that help to minimize prolactin sides. I take an AI majority of the time anyways to deal with estrogen, so I take one of those as well......
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I'm using 400mg pstanz. Don't care if libido is killed, can't see my gf for 6 weeks anyways cause of work
 
Savagev7 said:
How long you guys usually wait to put on a shirt after applying the trenazone
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I apply it to the neck clavicle area, so shirt doesn't come into play too much.....but I do put on the dermacrine on chest delts upper arm area about the same time. I like to leave it for 45-60 minutes so the derma dries up as much as possible (it usually stays somewhat "greasy", but I figure upwards of an hour is a good timeframe). so I leave them both for about 1-2 hours depending on how much time I have. 30-45 would probably be fine though, hell even less for that matter....I like things to dry out as much as possible before putting on clothing though....thats my preference...you can always stand under the A/C vent and that dries it up QUICK! :D......
 
jamesm11 said:
I'm using 400mg pstanz. Don't care if libido is killed, can't see my gf for 6 weeks anyways cause of work
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I wasn't aware of the necessity for such high dosing when I bought the PStanz, so I only got 3 bottles for this here run (enough for 300mg X 6 weeks)....but I'd have bought one more bottle if I knew. everybody was saying 300mg was fine, then all of a sudden after I purchase, its 400-450mg :D.....
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I wasn't aware of the necessity for such high dosing when I bought the PStanz, so I only got 3 bottles for this here run (enough for 300mg X 6 weeks)....but I'd have bought one more bottle if I knew. everybody was saying 300mg was fine, then all of a sudden after I purchase, its 400-450mg :D.....
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haha we have screwed you. your misery pleases me. it was a carefully thought out plan, and took coordination efforts far beyond anything you can imagine
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I wasn't aware of the necessity for such high dosing when I bought the PStanz, so I only got 3 bottles for this here run (enough for 300mg X 6 weeks)....but I'd have bought one more bottle if I knew. everybody was saying 300mg was fine, then all of a sudden after I purchase, its 400-450mg :D.....
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i never said that, and dont remember you askin me (cause you prob didn't) but 300mg is a dose i recomend to run with nor androgens to prevent the typical side effects associated from them

but, 6 weeks may be enough time to notice gains,

people prob got the pstanz confused with fura, 300mg of fura is enough.
 
jbryand101b said:
i never said that, and dont remember you askin me (cause you prob didn't) but 300mg is a dose i recomend to run with nor androgens to prevent the typical side effects associated from them

but, 6 weeks may be enough time to notice gains,

people prob got the pstanz confused with fura, 300mg of fura is enough.
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not sure if you were implicated or not.....I know one PP rep with big muscles said he had his clients on 300-350mg per week, and also a few other members I did not know previously posted 300-350mg. I think most all members agreed with this....motherfuqers :D.........
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
not sure if you were implicated or not.....I know one PP rep with big muscles said he had his clients on 300-350mg per week, and also a few other members I did not know previously posted 300-350mg. I think most all members agreed with this....motherfuqers :D.........
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Everywhere I've seen has said 300. I just ran 400-450 to get rid of my orals
 
jamesm11 said:
Everywhere I've seen has said 300. I just ran 400-450 to get rid of my orals
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Yeah i know.... Everywhere it says 300-350.....but these guys on this board changed their tune the past month and now its 450mg per day or don't bother :confused:
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
Yeah i know.... Everywhere it says 300-350.....but these guys on this board changed their tune the past month and now its 450mg per day or don't bother :confused:
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I really think that number will vary depending on the person.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
probably, but I'm using it with trenazone and AHv3....so 300mg per day is more than enough in my case. but running it alone, not sure if it would be adequate.
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Yeah that's true, it depends how high u run the trenazone too.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Yeah that's true, it depends how high u run the trenazone too.
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I REALLY don't want to bust open that third bottle.....but I have done 1.25/1.25/1.5/ and starting 1.5 on saturday for week 4....then weeks 5 and 6 at 2ml per day. But I bet that 2nd bottle will be done by end of week 5....So I'll have to bust open the 3rd bottle for week 6...oh well, hate to open it and leave it for months opened...maybe I'll refrigerate it :D better than shortchanging myself one week I suppose....
 
I wonder if I can get away with 600mg NAC for liver protection on this cycle? mostly just the trenazone affects the liver out of the 3 I think. Just came off of epi though....with not much liver protection....finally got the damn NAC today, was waiting for bulk NP....never in stock....
 
yeah I usually don't bother.....I use safer topicals, PP stuff, non-methyl whenever possible....things that don't stress the liver as much (USUALLY). But then again I don't take much liver support either due to this fact and when you take a methyl? you forget to pick up some support. Been getting those lower back pains/pumps/whatever feelings....So just being paranoid.
 
True I really don't worry, I'm an ex druggy, these methyls can't do anything to my liver compared to what I've done in the past. They're hepatoxicity is really overexaggerated.
 
I agree.....guys should probably be more concerned with their heart, BP, lipids and stuff like that more so than their liver. Now the guys who have a propensity for liver problems? that is another story, but they will know right off the bat as we have seen from a few stories in this section.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I agree.....guys should probably be more concerned with their heart, BP, lipids and stuff like that more so than their liver. Now the guys who have a propensity for liver problems? that is another story, but they will know right off the bat as we have seen from a few stories in this section.
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Yeah exactly. Your heart isn't resilient like your liver at all.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
What happened, u snort too much coke?
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Never smoked, never drank, never did drugs....well are PH's and steroids and ancillaries drugs? no REC drugs! :D.....could have been OTC stims, or clen, or 2-3 years of AAS, or just predisposed to it and shyt just happens over time....No way to know.....
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
Never smoked, never drank, never did drugs....well are PH's and steroids and ancillaries drugs? no REC drugs! :D.....could have been OTC stims, or clen, or 2-3 years of AAS, or just predisposed to it and shyt just happens over time....No way to know.....
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I failed everyone of those tests lol. What was wrong with your heart bro?
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
True I really don't worry, I'm an ex druggy, these methyls can't do anything to my liver compared to what I've done in the past. They're hepatoxicity is really overexaggerated.
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Haha classic =) ex druggie = iron liver. I am currently in the middle of my first PH cycle of hella/ androhard and I believe my past has paid off...no sides. What so ever. =)
 
technique88 said:
Haha classic =) ex druggie = iron liver. I am currently in the middle of my first PH cycle of hella/ androhard and I believe my past has paid off...no sides. What so ever. =)
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Haha we're in the same boat brother. I think all those Oxys I used to pound r a lot worse than some superdrol lol
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
its enlarged. no big deal, just need to be aware of it and not do anything stupid. and take my script and supps for it. hard to keep BP down with some of this shyt though.
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Oh yeah I understand bro. Yeah just use caution.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Haha we're in the same boat brother. I think all those Oxys I used to pound r a lot worse than some superdrol lol
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I would definitely agree =) just ask lil whyte in the song oxy****** these methyls ain't nuffin! Haha
 
Very good song. I am in my 3rd week. Of helladrol and instead of 75mg as planned I upped the dose to 100mg. Still no sides. I came across this thread and I couldn't help to relate lol. I know its early on but I think I've primed my liver enough in the past so superdrol or ultradrol it is next cycle...I'm still deciding.
 
Im up 7 pounds starting week 3 here going to 16 mg ultra 2ml tren. Getting stronger in pretty much everything . All is well so far.
 
Nothing super noticeable or maybe I cant tell because I look at myself everyday but my traps look like I just got done working them out all the time. My calf's feel twice there size
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Haha we're in the same boat brother. I think all those Oxys I used to pound r a lot worse than some superdrol lol
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Haha. Sounds a lot like my past. Guess that's why I take these strong PH's with no sides. Lol
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Lmao 4real, its sad but the drugs were good for something haha.
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They biopsyed my liver to formulate the most effective liver support: Livercontin52
 
Savagev7 said:
What week did you start really noticing the lean
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It didn't really lean me out all that much. But I wasn't working with a lot of fat to begin with. But about half way through week 2 and into week 3 I started packing on size
 
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