Ultra Three Returns (topical 3AD) - pre sale promo

delsolrob said:
we'll keep working on it - hopefully we can get this resolved. I've also been discussing making a capped version
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I would definitely get in on this. Big fan of Iconic Formulations and big fan of 3AD. Have used capsules several times in the past, goes great with my TRT.
 
Thought we'd have more information mid week, sorry guys - this is going to take a few more days. I've been bombarded with logistics issue this whole week.
 
IN for this, well worth the wait. Had some time to mull things over and make a few extra bucks so this will be on my radar when it's available. Love the mood boost, recovery and pumps from it.
 
subweevil said:
IN for this, well worth the wait. Had some time to mull things over and make a few extra bucks so this will be on my radar when it's available. Love the mood boost, recovery and pumps from it.
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I'm going to try to make some time this weekend to work on this.
 
Appreciate you making time for it, awesome! If it's the capped version, any extras for increased bioavailability?
 
Success!

I'll be following up with all those who pre ordered before to let them know - these will be the first people we offer these too.

The bad news, we couldn't salvage the previous lot and I can only make 50 units with the available material. I'm following up with the supplier to see what it's going to take to get more material. But, I'll be working on getting these done and will be reaching out to everyone who pre ordered before to give them first priority on these.

I'll be reaching out to all those who pre-ordered to give them first dibs on these. But, this is great news!
 
Truly, a great day!
delsolrob said:
Success!

I'll be following up with all those who pre ordered before to let them know - these will be the first people we offer these too.

The bad news, we couldn't salvage the previous lot and I can only make 50 units with the available material. I'm following up with the supplier to see what it's going to take to get more material. But, I'll be working on getting these done and will be reaching out to everyone who pre ordered before to give them first priority on these.

I'll be reaching out to all those who pre-ordered to give them first dibs on these. But, this is great news!
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delsolrob said:
Success!

I'll be following up with all those who pre ordered before to let them know - these will be the first people we offer these too.

The bad news, we couldn't salvage the previous lot and I can only make 50 units with the available material. I'm following up with the supplier to see what it's going to take to get more material. But, I'll be working on getting these done and will be reaching out to everyone who pre ordered before to give them first priority on these.

I'll be reaching out to all those who pre-ordered to give them first dibs on these. But, this is great news!
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I just reordered brother!
 
delsolrob said:
Success!

I'll be following up with all those who pre ordered before to let them know - these will be the first people we offer these too.

The bad news, we couldn't salvage the previous lot and I can only make 50 units with the available material. I'm following up with the supplier to see what it's going to take to get more material. But, I'll be working on getting these done and will be reaching out to everyone who pre ordered before to give them first priority on these.

I'll be reaching out to all those who pre-ordered to give them first dibs on these. But, this is great news!
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Does this mean a topical and capsule form may be coming, or just one or the other?
 
StrongGuy said:
Does this mean a topical and capsule form may be coming, or just one or the other?
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There are some challenging topics behind our choices going forward

My goal was to make a commercially viable 3-AD product that we can offer long term.

There's a reason this last lot failed - the specifications for the raws changed. I had realized there was a visible difference in the raws when we got started. The older version was more powdery and had a slightly yellow tinge to it, while the new material was more grainy and pure white. In working with the supplier, we realized they had changed the refinement process on the material and the latest "version" of the raws don't work in our carrier. I was able to get a small qty of material from before the refinement change - got a small batch of 150g to try out...and it works great - as I'd experienced in the past. but, that leaves us with the capacity to make a total of 66 units - still not enough to go production on. And, there's no way of recovering the material we'd already put into production.

Financial implications of continuing to make a topical - 3-AD is an extremely expensive ingredient to make, and in order to keep making a gel version of it, I would have to finance a whole lot of material made to their previous specifications. This means we would have to invest a significant amount of capital into purchasing more raws in advance and it would take some time to get. I'm working with them to determine what this kind of timeframe would look like and how much capital would be required upfront. I don't think the trade war is going to make this any easier, as this would also have to be imported.

Making a topical is considerably more expensive than making a capped product - period! Most people don't realize the added costs and labor for making these in topical form. The carrier is expensive and there's a significant amount of labor involved in making them. The different stages of production is a full time job for 2 days.

making capped products is way more cost effective - one of the main questions - are customers willing to pay the premium for a topical version? When I started reaching out to retailers to discuss offering Ultra Three - there was a lot of pushback on the costs - I cannot compete at the price point of an oral version...just not possible. The difference in costs between capping and bottling an oral version and making a gel is going to be about $10.

Topicals are better for a number of reasons, and an expensive ingredient like 3-AD is a prime example of one of the reasons why...if we can get substantially more bioavailability, we make a product that costs ~$10 more, but is still way cheaper than running higher oral doses.

If money were no issue, I'd release both and see how the market responds. It may be something we also have to release in capped form for the near term and if demand remains high, we look into making a topical version again in the future.

I'm still waiting for the supplier to get back to me about the costs of financing a "custom" lot of material - and much of this will get hashed out soon. it will also be crucial that we get a lot of feedback on this limited run of Ultra Three gel.
 
All orders of Ultra Three have gone - expecting everyone to receive them this week

This first lot was only 36 units, we have another batch of 30 being made next week - since these are small lots I have to make them in beakers and fill them by weight...it's a little painstakingly slow, but I should have the rest made shortly.

really need feedback on these
 
delsolrob said:
All orders of Ultra Three have gone - expecting everyone to receive them this week

This first lot was only 36 units, we have another batch of 30 being made next week - since these are small lots I have to make them in beakers and fill them by weight...it's a little painstakingly slow, but I should have the rest made shortly.

really need feedback on these
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Rob
I sent you an email but didn't here back, I had pre ordered the earlier 3ad, I had ordered from the UK, would like to order again, thanks Steve
 
delsolrob said:
All orders of Ultra Three have gone - expecting everyone to receive them this week

This first lot was only 36 units, we have another batch of 30 being made next week - since these are small lots I have to make them in beakers and fill them by weight...it's a little painstakingly slow, but I should have the rest made shortly.

really need feedback on these
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Rob, I will definitely give some good feedback and I'm excited to add this into the mix.
 
Rob- I would throw my app in again also. Currently doing 4 days as a upper and lower split. Would also purchase 2nd bottle to extend the run if chosen
 
Just received my package, super pumped to try this out. I appreciate the level of packaging as well, took a minute to actually open it lol.
 
Allhealsonme said:
Just received my package, super pumped to try this out. I appreciate the level of packaging as well, took a minute to actually open it lol.
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That's how it is when I personally pack it with a little luv :P

can't wait for the feedback! When you planning to start?

also, I included some of the improvements I'd been working on in the carrier for these - should be a bit easier on the skin.
 
Trauma1 said:
Rob, I will definitely give some good feedback and I'm excited to add this into the mix.
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Thank man, can't wait! Looks like you should have it Monday :)

do you know when you're planning to give it a go?
 
I plan to start this tomorrow. I understand it’s been a process putting all this together so I’ll definitely keep everyone updated. I’ve used all of your products so I believe I can give you some quality feedback on carrier etc.
 
Allhealsonme said:
I plan to start this tomorrow. I understand it’s been a process putting all this together so I’ll definitely keep everyone updated. I’ve used all of your products so I believe I can give you some quality feedback on carrier etc.
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I appreciate you!
 
got my package today, will start it tomorrow at 2 pumps after my shower before work. i will keep the dosage normal this time,,sometimes i get carried away and double dose but i really want to see what happens long term combined with approx 60mg transdermal testosterone. there will no overlap of application sites each day between the 2 gels
 
will get total testosterone levels checked towards the end of the 2 bottles, then again in july when i am just on the androgel
 
initial thoughts on the physical properties of ultra 3(3-ad) on first application:

compared to the previous two batches of this gel that were released 2 or 3 years ago the new bottles i recieved have a creamy texture to the gel, drying time is the about the same if not better. there is no stickiness or tacky sensation on the skin. zero odor or fragrance after dry down. no overt undissolved 3-ad raws were noted on skin compared to previous batches years ago. no redness or irritation noted 16 hours after application
 
the next tests over the next 3 weeks will be for tolerability during sun exposure, application site will be left forearm/upper arm on those days, will be outside doing yard work, golfing, and fishing
 
Feedback on the gel improvements has been extremely positive.
 
went golfing the other day around 2pm a few days ago. no redness noted to my forearm. so far the androgel has kicked in slightly even after the 3rd day of androgel i had better pumps in the gym and i could feel my lats and traps were a little bit more full, i cant say for certain what effects are from the androgel vs 3-ad because i started the androgel a week before 3-ad. starting test level was hovering around castration range of 60 ng/dl. the only way i will know for certain what effect 3-ad has is by the bloodwork and physical changes when i stop taking 3-ad
 
so far, feedback from everyone who's started has been outstanding
 
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Update on this - We still have a number of beta bottles of Ultra Three available.

Also, I've worked out a deal that will secure Ultra Three is going to be available for our full retail version soon. I've gone through with prepaying for a custom lot of material that will work with our carrier. Retail bottles should be available in a few weeks.
 
@delsolrob sorry for the interruption on the Ultra Three Returns (topical
3AD) - pre-sale promo. However, could you help me with an order that I purchased a week ago from Iconic Formulations? I have sent emails to you on the website with the order number. Again, sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks
 
BEAST73 said:
@delsolrob sorry for the interruption on the Ultra Three Returns (topical
3AD) - pre-sale promo. However, could you help me with an order that I purchased a week ago from Iconic Formulations? I have sent emails to you on the website with the order number. Again, sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks
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Followed up with a phone call...
 
a little bit of redness and dry flaky skin noted to inner thigh application sites beiing the primary site i use this gel on currently, abdomen and arms are ok so far
 
Hey all - A quick update since adding in the 3-AD: I'm running Ultrahard, Icon-11, Dermacrine, and now the 3-AD into the mix. I'm custom dosing these based on my body and experience with the compounds and have had very good results in terms of recomposition. I'm running the 3-AD at 2 pumps day (splitting dose AM/PM application). The best way I can described the effects since adding it in is the potentiation-effect it seems to have on the other compounds. My mood had been great (libido remains good) and definitely a noticeable increase in both muscle fullness and increased vasculature. My strength has also started to climb this week with this being the second week on the 3-AD. Overall - I'm sold so far as it seems to be a very good add to light a fire to the stack.
 
delsolrob said:
Update on this - We still have a number of beta bottles of Ultra Three available.

Also, I've worked out a deal that will secure Ultra Three is going to be available for our full retail version soon. I've gone through with prepaying for a custom lot of material that will work with our carrier. Retail bottles should be available in a few weeks.
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I just picked up 2 more to run this a bit longer. I'm very impressed thus far, Rob. Great stuff
 
Trauma1 said:
I just picked up 2 more to run this a bit longer. I'm very impressed thus far, Rob. Great stuff
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Thanks buddy! got the order and will have it out today...upgraded the shipping for you ;)
 
@delsolrob would this stack well with Ultra Eleven (not taking anything else including no TRT). Goal would be recomp although not sure if I would nuke my cortisol too much stacking these together.

Tried the oral version years back but honestly kind of forget it a bit in terms of efficiency. Not sure if topical would better due to direct conversion on the skin with more androgenic acitivty. Not much data on this compound unfortunately.
 
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