If you have not taken epiandrosterone before, I would suggest starting off with 300mg pre-workout one day and then using 3 pumps the next day without an oral - before combining them on the same day. If that goes ok, use both the oral and transdermal for about a week before turning up the dose up of one or the other. Wait at least a few days after turning up the dose again so you can get a feel for how its treating you. 5 pumps with 600mg oral is fine if you can tolerate it.