But with that said gains ar anywhere from 5-12 range an lean. Clean weight. If there are sides its at doses over 75-100mg. Those side can range from back pumps, to lethargy .
To combat the lethargy you can add dermacrine. or some form of DHEA to act like a testosterone base. That should help.
Back pumps you can use taurine. However Quinine (from tonic water,,, diet) can work just as well.
I havent gotten to run Turina yet but Ive ran an oral clone with Tren. Used Oral SA on cycle along with proper supports.....had no sides. Gained 20lbs and strength rose.
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