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Turinabol cycle conpleted. How long should I wait to start sonething else?

What are you doing for pct? how long were you on?

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ManBeast
 
you were told not to do a post cycle? by who?

ManBeast
 
So... you got something from a "friend," used it for too long (were you using anything to protect your liver?) and now you don't plan on doing anything to get your body normalized again?

AND you are already talking about going back on?

You have a lot to learn, all stuff you should have learned long before popping any "enhancers"...

ManBeast
 
there is nothing wrong with chlorodehydromethyltestosterone (turinabol) for 7 weeks, in fact, it is probably THE BEST cycle a person can run for their first cycle.

support supps aren't a must have for compounds such as this, and you most likely would not notice a difference with or without them, even at a high dosage.

tbol cycles should be about 50-80mg, and no less than 6 weeks, and no more than 8 weeks, the lower the dosage used, the less intense pct will be needed.

in all serious, all that is important in this ops question is how long (he said 7 weeks) and how much (?) if he ran 40mg for 7 weeks, all I would recomend for pct for him would be an otc pct, like erase pro + daa, but really, just a product like pct assist would be fine most likely.

now, if he went 80mg for 7 weeks, that'd be a different story.
 
I haven't seen much to indicate that turinabol isn't methylated, nor have I seen that it doesn't shut down the HPGA, and I have read about it from several sources, if there is information to change my thinking, I will gladly read, learn, and accept it.

ManBeast
 
you must of missed it, or something, but i layed out the technical name for turinabol in my first sentance, "chloro-dehydro-methyl-testosterone"

all androgens are methylated also.

hpta disruption will vary depending on the compound, dosage, and length of cycle.

tbol does not bind stongly with the androgen receptor, and has a high affinity for shbg, if it didn't have a long half life, it would probably really suck.

anyhow, even a 10mg dose of anavar will disrupt hta function, but this does not mean one will need to run a pct program from 10mg of anavar, even if you used it 20 weeks.

you run 40mg of turinabol for 6-8 weeks, then decide if you want to use all the pct products you dropped so much cash on, instead of save it for when it is needed.

if big pharma didn't run the industry, it would be used instead of anavar in medicine, but anavar will bring the $$$
 
So, within the same timeframe as your typical SERM PCT, one will regain full (or close to and be on their way to full) HPGA function?

ManBeast
 
maybe, i dont know what dosage he used, im just throwing around dosages of typical cycles of tbol. with 40mg being a dosage that 99% of users do not need much of a pct, as hpta disruption is not that severe from an androgen that is a lot weaker than testosterone both anabolically and androgenically.
 
jbryand101b: You clearly shouldnt be giving advice to people in something as serious as this. You are ignoring almost all the studies ever done on AAS.
 
Eh, just like there are some prohormones out that don't require a real crazy PCT (a few of Primordial Performance's prodcuts come to mind), I'm sure there are steroids that don't as well. Like I said before, I just tend to err on the overly cautious side.

ManBeast
 
uric said:
jbryand101b: You clearly shouldnt be giving advice to people in something as serious as this. You are ignoring almost all the studies ever done on AAS.
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yea, you must be high, or not very sharp.

but really, lets discuss some data on androgens and anabolics, where would you like to start. i'll even give you time to look up your sources referenced sources, as im going to w/o.

i'll check back when im done, i dont have another client till 5:30 az time, so i got some time today to learn,teach,lead.

in the red until you impress me with your knowledge.
 
ManBeast said:
Eh, just like there are some prohormones out that don't require a real crazy PCT (a few of Primordial Performance's prodcuts come to mind), I'm sure there are steroids that don't as well. Like I said before, I just tend to err on the overly cautious side.

ManBeast
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yea, nothing wrong with that. and with androgens, it's always more gains, more sides. and 40mg of tbol even for 8 weeks will not bring much in the way of gains, and so, will have very low sides. (hpta disruption, as you know, is a side effect of outside androgen usage).

but look at something like superdrol, yea, it has a low androgenic rating, but it's anabolic was shown to be 400. it has an extra methylated in two places on the primary male androgen, dht, so sides will be high, conversion to an inactive metabolite in the muscle will be low (from the 2a methyl) and breakdown to an inactive metabolite in the liver will also be low (from the 17a methyl addition)

those two additions make it very powerful, and also bring more side effects.

another good example is ment, which is being studied as a form of male contraceptive.
 
I was told to do 10 mg a day for the first week and increase 10 mg everyweek till 40 mg. Then decrease back to 10mg.
 
no wonder his supplier told him no pct.

how much did you pay for this cycle?

lets see, 10, 20, 30, 40, 30, 20, 10.
yea, if i ran a cycle like that, i'd just buy some "animal stak2" and use that.
 
Gained about 6 clean pounds. Now I'm at 185 and would like to reach 190. I was given tri blend stack.
 
well, to end all the fun discussion of this thread, I'd say for you to wait about 2 months befor beginning you next cycle.

and in that time, research everything you can about androgenic/anabolic steroids, and post cycle therapy.
 
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