Trt no AI

[JBoneke]

Any ideas of how long it can take to clear excess estrogen out of your system? I accumulated too much estrogen on too high of a dose over a few months. It very gradually crept up until i decided to go back to a dose that didn't give me high estrogen side effects. It's been 2 weeks now since the change and don't really feel that much improvement. Will it take as long to drop as it took to accumulate?
I'm talking naturally with no AI. Thanks.

 

[DTA]

Why not use an AI to drop it then assess from there?

 

[kcstreetracer]

Estrogen can take a while to drop naturally. Like DTA said, just use a small dose of ai to drop it and go from there.

 

[JBoneke]

Dr doesn't feel comfortable prescribing one. I'm so happy to have found a dr that prescribes my T script cause they aren't always easy to find. I don't need an AI on the right trt dose

 

[JBoneke]

Estrogen can take a while to drop naturally. Like DTA said, just use a small dose of ai to drop it and go from there.

Wouldn't mind trying one but don't have access to an AI.

 

[kcstreetracer]

Just ride it out then, should drop down on it's own after a bit.

 

[JBoneke]

Just ride it out then, should drop down on it's own after a bit.

Thanks. What's s there any possible damage to receptors or anything? Would DIM or something help?

 

[Smont]

Dr doesn't feel comfortable prescribing one. I'm so happy to have found a dr that prescribes my T script cause they aren't always easy to find. I don't need an AI on the right trt dose

Im confused, a dr. Will prescribe test but not a ai? That doesn't make sense to me, you could always go get 1 online, its easy to find

 

[kisaj]

Most doctors will not prescribe an AI with TRT. We just haven't matured enough even with specialists. DIM and calcium d glucarate are good for management of estrogen and metabolizing bad estrogens (xenoestrogens) into good. It depends on what your actual issue is and what is needed because we don't know what you are experiencing and how you know your e2 is too high- did you get labs?

Personally I would not go on a script AI without knowing my baseline because all to often you will be chasing to get to the "right" balance and can crush e2, then be in an almost worse situation. I would rather have slightly higher levels than too low.

 

[Smont]

Most doctors will not prescribe an AI with TRT. We just haven't matured enough even with specialists. DIM and calcium d glucarate are good for management of estrogen and metabolizing bad estrogens (xenoestrogens) into good. It depends on what your actual issue is and what is needed because we don't know what you are experiencing and how you know your e2 is too high- did you get labs?

Personally I would not go on a script AI without knowing my baseline because all to often you will be chasing to get to the "right" balance and can crush e2, then be in an almost worse situation. I would rather have slightly higher levels than too low.

Learning soming new every day, you would think prescribing test would be harder then a ai.

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[JBoneke]

Most doctors will not prescribe an AI with TRT. We just haven't matured enough even with specialists. DIM and calcium d glucarate are good for management of estrogen and metabolizing bad estrogens (xenoestrogens) into good. It depends on what your actual issue is and what is needed because we don't know what you are experiencing and how you know your e2 is too high- did you get labs?

Personally I would not go on a script AI without knowing my baseline because all to often you will be chasing to get to the "right" balance and can crush e2, then be in an almost worse situation. I would rather have slightly higher levels than too low.

Thanks. That's pretty much why I don't want to go on one.
I can always tell without labs. When I started I did 200 mg a week. That obviously didn't last long with good results. Of course thar turned into high estrogen issues within a few weeks. Being fatigued, bloated, ED, inconfident, weakness were the signs mostly.
So I know the signs. I can tell if I screw around with my doses I will feel these symptoms if I push my luck and take too much.
The best dose I ever took was 60mg every 5 days. Not perfect but I felt relatively good except for the last day. What's talked my dr into upping to 80 mg every 5 days. Felt great for a month or two. After that I could very gradually tell this was too much for me. On my own I've decided that 60 every 4 should be ideal. It's less than 80 every 5 but I think the key is the initial amount. 80 is a little to much and 60 every 5 days is a little too little. 60 every 5 had my total T at 752 on day 3 and about 500ish on day 5 and day 6 I found was 358 TT. Obviously a big drop after day 4.
I'm getting blood work next month. I better ask for Estrogen too.