TRT levels to high.

I went through some intense therapy and changed a lot of my mindset and had to learn to recognize my own behaviors. I still have trouble from time to time, especially with things like impulse purchases to feel better, and was alcoholic for many years. The trt has really helped stabilize me though, I think in the past my test was low enough and estrogen was high enough i was almost going through a woman's type cycle of emotional roller coast BS...

I would love to avoid an AI (or better yet NOT be on TRT). I refused to used one at first, and then started seeing a cyclical feeling where i had itchy, hardened and painful nipples, i started using it as needed. But I still had lower waist fat that would not budge. I am now using .5mg of arimidex OR 12.5 mg of Aromasin with my shot. It seems to be really working a LOT better than before. I have even noticed a reduction in bacne as well.
 
v4lu3s said:
I went through some intense therapy and changed a lot of my mindset and had to learn to recognize my own behaviors. I still have trouble from time to time, especially with things like impulse purchases to feel better, and was alcoholic for many years. The trt has really helped stabilize me though, I think in the past my test was low enough and estrogen was high enough i was almost going through a woman's type cycle of emotional roller coast BS...

I would love to avoid an AI (or better yet NOT be on TRT). I refused to used one at first, and then started seeing a cyclical feeling where i had itchy, hardened and painful nipples, i started using it as needed. But I still had lower waist fat that would not budge. I am now using .5mg of arimidex OR 12.5 mg of Aromasin with my shot. It seems to be really working a LOT better than before. I have even noticed a reduction in bacne as well.
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I have recently started realizing my actions and trying to find ways to control it. Relationships with women and friends have always been hard, keeping a job and spending alot of money and then regreting it. Its either i am 150% into something or want nothing to do with it. I have an appointment with a mood disorder clinic in a few months, so we will see how that goes. I would like to start going to bipolar group talks, have you done that? The impulse spending is hard to control because when you are on a high your having the time of your life, then when you crash your like how did I max out my credit card.

I have had my pms episodes aswell. I think me and my gf are on the same pms cycle. Lol

Good to hear your finding a balance, gives me some hope.
 
Why are lab ranges diffent for each lab? Also noticed you guys in the states have different ranges then canada. Canadas normal ranges are lower then US
 
Labs at 20mg a day.
Total T-24.8nmol/l (7.6-31)
Bio T-20.8nmol/l (1.7-13.6)
Free T- 810pmol/l(196-636)
E2- <46 (<156)pmol/l
Im guessing my e2 is crashed from adex, will do sensative test next time.

I guess having low shbg is making my bio and free go higher then normal. Question- which testostrone value is most important? I may end up with mid range Total T but high end free and bio.

Lowered my dosage to 16mg a day will do labs again in 6 weeks.
 
Free test is the most important, but in reality, what is most important is curing your cause and symptoms while staying in range. If that is happening, then increasing free test will improve muscle building, mood, libido, and fat loss more than having lower free test and high total test. Looks like yours is through the roof, so as long as you can stand injecting everyday, then it seems like you are good to go based on this.
 
kisaj said:
Free test is the most important, but in reality, what is most important is curing your cause and symptoms while staying in range. If that is happening, then increasing free test will improve muscle building, mood, libido, and fat loss more than having lower free test and high total test. Looks like yours is through the roof, so as long as you can stand injecting everyday, then it seems like you are good to go based on this.
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thanks for the info.
Im guessing i will probably still come in high at 16mg a day. Thats 112 a week from 140. But i will just drop down 1 line on the slin pin until i get within range.
 
Sounds like you are making some good progress. Daily shots are going to get very old though....are you doing im or subq? might want to consider subq if it works for you. Definitely need the sensitive e2, though if its way too low you will know.

I think maturing also plays a role in the bipolar stuff, its a lot easier for me to focus on stuff that I do not like because it needs to be done now compared to 15+ years ago. I can actually take time and think about the repercussions of an action, I also drink a LOT less...It has been a process that took over a decade though, and most people I know are surprised with my past diagnosis and experience.
 
v4lu3s said:
Sounds like you are making some good progress. Daily shots are going to get very old though....are you doing im or subq? might want to consider subq if it works for you. Definitely need the sensitive e2, though if its way too low you will know.

I think maturing also plays a role in the bipolar stuff, its a lot easier for me to focus on stuff that I do not like because it needs to be done now compared to 15+ years ago. I can actually take time and think about the repercussions of an action, I also drink a LOT less...It has been a process that took over a decade though, and most people I know are surprised with my past diagnosis and experience.
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I am doing IM using a slin pin. I have been doing some reading on subq. I may give it a try once i dial in my dosage and compare bloodwork.

Ya the bipolar issues are a work in progress. Just need to slow things down before making descions. I have also stopped drinking. Never been a big drinker but i have gone on bindge drinking episodes. I enjoy smoking weed but like anything it is everyday or not at all. I feel it helps with anexity but does make me lazy.
 
dimitrij said:
I am doing IM using a slin pin. I have been doing some reading on subq. I may give it a try once i dial in my dosage and compare bloodwork.

Ya the bipolar issues are a work in progress. Just need to slow things down before making descions. I have also stopped drinking. Never been a big drinker but i have gone on bindge drinking episodes. I enjoy smoking weed but like anything it is everyday or not at all. I feel it helps with anexity but does make me lazy.
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You must be pretty lean to pin IM with a slin pin.
 
Wouldnt say i an lean at all. Got a bit of a stomach on me. I have been injecting in my traps,triceps,delts, calves, biceps sometimes . A bit less fat in those areas.
 
dimitrij said:
Wouldnt say i an lean at all. Got a bit of a stomach on me. I have been injecting in my traps,triceps,delts, calves, biceps sometimes . A bit less fat in those areas.
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Unless you're really lean, it's prob a subq injection and you think it's an IM.
 
dimitrij said:
ya you could be right, i use 1/2" long and try and get it in deep. Switching to subq in the stomach eventually would prob make sense.
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If you're going to use slin pins then you might as well do subq shots. Still don't understand your daily injections. You're going to build up scar tissue faster.
 
Any of you guys have b12,b6 injections in your trt protocol? Buddy of mines started b12 shots and says he noticed an increase in energy
 
Hey guys need to do some bloodwork for my family doctor. I have done a few tests on my own to dial in my levels to where i feel comfortable.

I inject 16mg a day as I have mentioned before. How many days should i not inject before bloodwork to make my levels come in midrange or so. I am thinking 3 days.

Thanks
 
i would go 1-2x a week and use AI dose that keeps estro incheck. also for HRT i Highly rec DHEA ed and pregnenolone ed along with test. its a more complete HRT regimen
 
I feel comfortable with my protocol. Just wondering how many days i should not inject before doing bloodwork. To get a bit of drop.
 
You should always test the day of injection if possible or as close as you can. You need to know your lowest point.
 
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