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InItForGainz

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As of from next week I'll be starting TRT. I have researched as much into it as possible, but would like to ask for some real life experiences and advice on what to take to negate the side effects (acne, water retention, other estrogenic side effects etc).
I have asked about including an AI in my treatment plan, but the consultants have said that they won't prescribe one until the estrogen become a problem...I however, would like to do what I can to prevent it/them before they do.
 
Side effects should be minimal unless your dose is too high or you are a very high aromatizer. I think the likelihood of either on transdermal will also be lower. You won’t peak as high and less will convert. If used regularly you should have a slow absorption of the medication and relatively stable blood levels.

Rather than having levels of 1200-1500 after a shot and then levels of 500-600 1 week later someone on transdermal may stay around 500-600 all days of the week. It’s dose dependent but generally it would be hard to get super high stable levels with transdermal unless they prescribed you a boatload.

You are better off without an AI unless you are out of range. High normal estrogen levels are ideal. That being said 0.125 mg anastrazole twice weekly would be a reasonable thing to ask for if you were particularly concerned about gyno, then backing off that on first set of labs of testosterone is ok but estrogen is low normal or low
 
Rockslide said:
Side effects should be minimal unless your dose is too high or you are a very high aromatizer. I think the likelihood of either on transdermal will also be lower. You won’t peak as high and less will convert. If used regularly you should have a slow absorption of the medication and relatively stable blood levels.

Rather than having levels of 1200-1500 after a shot and then levels of 500-600 1 week later someone on transdermal may stay around 500-600 all days of the week. It’s dose dependent but generally it would be hard to get super high stable levels with transdermal unless they prescribed you a boatload.

You are better off without an AI unless you are out of range. High normal estrogen levels are ideal. That being said 0.125 mg anastrazole twice weekly would be a reasonable thing to ask for if you were particularly concerned about gyno, then backing off that on first set of labs of testosterone is ok but estrogen is low normal or low
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I believe a transdermal test preparation converts higher to estrogen than injection
 
I don’t believe so but if anyone has research I’m open to see it. Should be IM> subq> TD regarding conversion. I guess if you did IM or subq daily they might change that .

Whole purpose of injecting twice weekly is to keep peaks lower and troughs higher. You convert during the peaks , hence the AI dose the day after a shot
 
Get injectable. Get injectable, get injectable.
The more often you inject, the lower your estrogen will be.
If you don't need an AI, you should not use one.
If your bodyfat is greater than 20% and your using 75mg or more, you will probably need an AI, but everyone is different. You need to wait for your blood test results.
 
botk1161 said:
Get injectable. Get injectable, get injectable.
The more often you inject, the lower your estrogen will be.
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Closer to how your natural testosterone produces as well the more you inject.
 
WickedWarlock said:
How old are you? Bf % estimate
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31 and 13.2% bodyfat (Dexa)

Rockslide said:
Side effects should be minimal unless your dose is too high or you are a very high aromatizer. I think the likelihood of either on transdermal will also be lower. You won’t peak as high and less will convert. If used regularly you should have a slow absorption of the medication and relatively stable blood levels.

Rather than having levels of 1200-1500 after a shot and then levels of 500-600 1 week later someone on transdermal may stay around 500-600 all days of the week. It’s dose dependent but generally it would be hard to get super high stable levels with transdermal unless they prescribed you a boatload.

You are better off without an AI unless you are out of range. High normal estrogen levels are ideal. That being said 0.125 mg anastrazole twice weekly would be a reasonable thing to ask for if you were particularly concerned about gyno, then backing off that on first set of labs of testosterone is ok but estrogen is low normal or low
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The reason I'm asking for an AI is because all of my blood tests show that my aromatase levels are above "high normal" range
 
sammpedd88 said:
Personally I would do injectable test instead of transdermal. You’ll have much better results and it’s much easier. Speaking from experience.
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botk1161 said:
Get injectable. Get injectable, get injectable.
The more often you inject, the lower your estrogen will be.
If you don't need an AI, you should not use one.
If your bodyfat is greater than 20% and your using 75mg or more, you will probably need an AI, but everyone is different. You need to wait for your blood test results.
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LeanEngineer said:
Closer to how your natural testosterone produces as well the more you inject.
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It's not really a choice here in the UK, unless you go private, but that is way out of my financial reach.
 
Go injectable! and if estrogen is an issue ask to get on anastrozole
 
InItForGainz said:
As of from next week I'll be starting TRT. I have researched as much into it as possible, but would like to ask for some real life experiences and advice on what to take to negate the side effects (acne, water retention, other estrogenic side effects etc).
I have asked about including an AI in my treatment plan, but the consultants have said that they won't prescribe one until the estrogen become a problem...I however, would like to do what I can to prevent it/them before they do.
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I wouldn't freak myself out worrying about side effects. There's a good chance you won't even have any. I started 5 years ago and had no issues what so ever. You could get some acne temporarily until your body adjusts to the new hormone levels.
 
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