TRT crowd (how much AI do you take)

Don't you think that denying scientific evidence looks more like "stick your head in the sand"? If people on the internet say the earth is flat and it looks flat, that doesn't mean the earth is flat.

Members that are active on TRT forums year in year out are in a lot of cases are hypochondriacs or people suffering looking for a cure. People on TRT that are happy and healthy go on with their lives, so you don't hear their stories. It is actually a very small group of people you see on every TRT forum making claims about the dangers of high E2. So you get a very biased idea of a correct TRT protocol when you base your knowledge on these forums posts and not on scientific evidence.

Don't you think it is strange that most guys juicing have a sky high E2 level but don't suffer from erectile dysfunction or libido issues? Makes you wonder...
 
Penner said:
Don't you think it is strange that most guys juicing have a sky high E2 level but don't suffer from erectile dysfunction or libido issues? Makes you wonder...
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Think about it.... where do you think their DHT levels are at? Guaranteed if their DHT doesn't respond as much as E2 on a cycle, their libido WILL be in the toilet. You are coming across as a noob here, no offence. You're speaking about 'science' but you don't seem to know much about it, nor are you speaking from practical experience. There is so much to be said about outdated textbook protocols and actual practical experience.

TRT/HRT overall is in it's infancy still. Several doctors still practice very outdated protocols. Pretty well known fact in the TRT world.
 
Penner said:
Don't you think that denying scientific evidence looks more like "stick your head in the sand"? If people on the internet say the earth is flat and it looks flat, that doesn't mean the earth is flat.

Members that are active on TRT forums year in year out are in a lot of cases are hypochondriacs or people suffering looking for a cure. People on TRT that are happy and healthy go on with their lives, so you don't hear their stories. It is actually a very small group of people you see on every TRT forum making claims about the dangers of high E2. So you get a very biased idea of a correct TRT protocol when you base your knowledge on these forums posts and not on scientific evidence.

Don't you think it is strange that most guys juicing have a sky high E2 level but don't suffer from erectile dysfunction or libido issues? Makes you wonder...
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1) I am not going to argue what you think and what I personally know. I know how e2 affects me and it matches how it affects others that you read on TRT boards. Call it what you will, but you are just coming from an argumentative position with no basis and we are coming from a stance of actually knowing. Because your doctor says something, means very little as most of us on TRT for any number of years have much better knowledge of current studies and protocols because we study it and it is in our best interest. Think about how many doctors are still only running total test labs and then putting their patients on 200mg of test a week without any additional data collection, or loading patients up on AIs, hcg, etc without knowing if it's needed, um...can you say 2 week inject protocols? It is all too common.

2) I don't know where you spend your time online with regards to guys juicing and not having ed and libido issues, but it is incredibly common and one of the biggest issues people face on high dose cycles. I know many guys that run cycles and that is the #1 complaint, but it is something they are willing to deal with in line with their goal.

That is really about what I have to say because I feel you are just here to start trouble since you've really provided nothing other than your opinion on what is posted in TRT forums.
 
It's like his crusade to stick up for estrogen... or an anti anti-estrogen campaign... what's his point?
 
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